Pro Tip: Get Apple glasses and then Elon can update his Teslas virtually! Imagine the possibilities! A new, different car every day! Make your Cybertruck not look stupid! Add cool stickers that a cool dad whose kids would talk to him would have on his cool car!

You hit the nail on the head. The Y always looked off to me, and that’s exactly it. It’s too tall for how short it is.

The Model Y is ugly.  It literally looks like a model 3 that was vertically scaled by 1.5.  Same with the X.

For a brand new generation of beta testers.

They have lots of sand to bury their heads in, though!

I would tell them they were free to pay the price on the window for any car on my lot, no negotiations needed, just let me know which car and I’ll have it cleaned up for them.

When it comes to (modern era) big coupe rear seat leg room, this thing is just 0.3" shy of tying the Bentley Brooklands. That’s gargantuan!

Still up to 1000 pounds more than a four-door electric crossover (Mustang Mach E)?

Batteries are heavy. Film at 11.

One thing not mentioned is that auto companies aren’t going to have to just weigh the effect of the tariffs, but also align that with the possibility that the pendulum swings back to the Democrats in 4 years, who would more than likely revoke those same tariffs.

Assuming there will be elections in 4 years. “You’ll never have to vote again!”

Yeah, but automakers won’t feel a pinch. They will jack up prices of cars. And since number of cars on US roads has grown significantly, people will need new cars. They will also layoff workers, which works better for companies’ bottom line. Stock price goes up, money goes brrrr.

If you drive 1k miles a month, and use no gas at all in you PHEV, the breakeven time on the PHEV increase in price is still over 8 years.

And there’s your problem. PHEV vehicles cost 10k more than a hybrid, and you save maybe 50 bucks a month in gas, provided you’re diligent about charging. That’s a 16 year payoff for the 10k increase in price if you drive 1k a month. The solution, of course is a straight hybrid vehicle. Better use of batteries (you can…

You definitely can get away with almost entirely electric for around town! I've posted it before, but my boss has a PHEV, and between home and office charging on a 120V outlet, he only needs to fill up the gas tank once every 1,000 miles

I always liked the idea of PHEV’s but I guess you are paying more for more complexity in the drivetrain department, and as EV costs begin to fall it might not be worth the tradeoff. If I had a PHEV I’d probably mostly charge at home and use gas for long trips, but that might also lead to a decline in charging at all.…

1st— Mmhmm, yeah “centrist” views. Money going to a whacko senile felon, who’s now threatening Americans with military action who disagree with him and his cronies. Putting my family’s existence at risk. Real nice.
After all that’s gone down these past few years with Trump, his slime supporters etc.....how, HOW can…

Remember that if you buy a Tesla, this is where your money is going. Some fascist lunatics may like that idea, but don’t delude yourself into thinking that’s not what buying a Tesla means.

It’s only down 8%. That’s not tanking nearly enough for this shitshow of vaporware. But then again everyone should have already known that whatever Musk announced would not be able to happen for another decade or so.

He also said back in 2016 that all Teslas built from that point would make the owners money because they all had the tech they need to run level 5 autonomy... but based on this it sounds like only 2025 and beyond models... which is of course also bullshit.