The bottom curve of your cheek is below the edge of the seat. You need to reach below that curve in order to get at the actual hole. Or you lean and raise it up over the edge, as you do, but that still leaves your hand close to all the ickiness going on below you. Especially if you consider the possibility that there…

Your ass is rounded, no? The toilet seat supports the outside edge of your ass, no? Thus the downward curve of your cheek takes it below the edge of the seat.

Twisting to wipe spreads the cheeks, too. My cheeks are generally not spread when sitting on the toilet, so any “damage” from cheeks being closer together has already been done. At the least, they’re not spread enough to keep anything that’s coming out from being able to touch them.

Mongoloid? Really?

I’m not saying people are getting poop all over their hands. Obviously they’re not, or they wouldn’t keep doing it that way. But the possibility exists.

No, the shit has never reached my ass. But my hand is also not infinitely thin, it has width, and then there is the fact that I have to move my hand around to actually do any wiping, and the possibility of the pile being high enough that a nuckle might slide against it exists. Is it a high likelihood? No. But standing…

I don’t have a flat ass, it curves. The bottom edge of my ass cheeks are definitely lower than the top edge of the seat. That’s in enough for me.

Yeah, a TP issue will always come along and cover your finger with shit. But that would happen no matter how you happen to clean yourself. Why add another possibility?

It’s probably not too big a worry, to be honest, it’s just a different way of doing things, but sitting to wipe never even entered my mind as an option. The idea of even slightly reaching into the toilet seemed gross, so standing up just seemed like the obvious thing to do. It wasn’t until I got married and happened…

Yeah, I have. But not because I pushed it into my anus, usually because the paper ripped, or there was insufficient coverage, but it was still an external affair.

You hope, but you don’t really know where your leavings are, because you’re blocking sight of them with your body.

How so? Moving away from your pile of shit rather than sitting right above it to wipe is ridiculous?

I’ve broken a seat or two by shifting my weight, so it’s not exactly overstated to say that leaning every time I shit wouldn’t result in more broken seats than not leaning.

I am also not sticking my hand into my anus. If you are, you’re a little too “vigorous” in your wiping.

So, you lean over far enough to get your hand completely under you, but above the rim of the toilet? Seems like a risk of either falling to the side, or breaking the toilet seat. Standing is much simpler.

You hope. But you’re not looking or watching where your hand is in relation to anything inside, so it’s just a matter of time, really.

Yeah, standing to keep your hands from even inadvertantly touching the poop you’ve been piling under you is criminally insane. Definitely. Reaching under you, where you’ve been piling said poop, with the hope that you didn’t pile it higher than you think, but without being able to look makes much more sense.

Hate is a strong word. Maybe slight disgust.

You scoot, someone else told me to lean. I’m still not going to stick my hand “slightly” into a wet, filthy, smelly hole that I can’t see into and hope I don’t touch anything. Standing is much easier and less prone to any poop touching issue.

Seems like simply standing and bending over a bit leads to the same end, without the chance of leaning too far and falling, or potentially breaking the seat by placing all of your weight on one side (and one hinge) rather than distributed around the perimeter.