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He’s not being “picky”; chassis feel is one of my most important criteria for buying a car. I can’t push something until it gives if I can’t feel it’s going to give.

Not to mention that some of us actually like “colored lights and itty bitty paddles”...

I wasn’t comparing what it would take to turn my 2012 into a 2016 Hellcat, but rather the notion of taking two similar model-years. Sorry for the confusion...

The dimensions I posted are from the 2016 DriveSRT site.

390-mm (15.4-inch) Brembo two-piece (front) rotors on both the SRT-8 and the Hellcat...

My point exactly. I think that the brakes are the same as my ‘12, but there are so many other differences...

Why does someone need to pay Chrysler to stick a supercharger on a Challenger rather than just do it themselves?

I don’t agree with every word written in these articles, but they are very compelling reads and my thanks to everyone that contributed to them.

No, it doesn’t; this is purely a matter of opinion, but some of funniest reviews I ever read were written about good cars. It doesn’t matter to me...because cars aren’t a religion; cars are simply tools made by fallible humans.

Either of these:

Expected this response, wasn’t disappointed. This article is focused on “scathing” and not “accurate” or “fair”.

Posting this link is a little bit of a cop-out, as it’s someone else’s list, but it’s perfect:

The industry is rife with similar anecdotes about Valvoline Instant Oil Change, but not everyone has gotten the message and this is absolutely not the owner’s fault. I wrenched when I was in school and the dealership technicians that I worked with made their fair share of mistakes, and were by no means perfect.

I like built A/G-bodies, but the pictures don’t show much of the rear setup and it’s probably too stock. It should, especially at this price, be back-halved or at least mini-tubbed. CP at this price...

I was thinking the same thing; this would be a great basis for a “mile shoot-out” car if it had a roof. Lots of organizations grief roadsters during during tech, even when the rules nominally permit them...

I may be a little partial, but...

I know that most of us get excited by the phrase “twelve-cylinder engine”, but these are truly awful cars: they’ll literally rust in half and every subsystem (brakes, wiring, etc.) is substandard and costs multiple fortunes to fix.

You’re spot on, and my post was a little tongue-in-cheek as ‘they’ would would die in paroxysms of offense.

I’ve often thought that a V8 model would do wonders for the Viper’s sales numbers without putting too much of a hit on its performance image.

If you’re buying a Viper buy the one with the most brakes you can afford. Since we’re spending imaginary fun money here we’d drop $110k on the GTS Coupe with all the nicer interior trim, the better shocks from the GT, and the StopTech two-piece rotors. Venom GTS white stripes are a $5,000 option, which is insane, but