I find that hard to believe based on the fit/finish of the current line.

Compared to GM’s fit and finish of their most expensive models, which is terrible, I’d be surprised if the cheap tesla was built as cheaply as the cheap gm. I don’t think Musk would allow some crappy plastic box in his line of awesome cars.

I never said it wouldn’t be reliable. I said it would be ugly and noisy and cheap feeling.

Half Life 3 confirmed? Thanks Gaben!

Except we all know that GM’s car will have a shitty interior, rattles, and be unattractive.

what does that even mean?

Biggest lie: Floormats cost $250

I think the answer is: anywhere where you can afford a house with a garage. Who the hell does car stuff outside of a garage? Plebians, that’s who.

Can we just take a moment to discuss a serious issue here? This is a car enthusiasts forum. HOW IN THE HELL are there so many “enthusiasts” living in states with regular snow, running ALL SEASON TIRES?!?! WTF is wrong with these people? Why are they on this forum? Do they actually like cars?

I’m so lost.

While you may drive slightly smarter (still dumb considering your weather and your lack of adequate traction) that doesn’t mean others on the road will follow suit.

Can you tell me why you don’t have snows? In a place that actually has winter? for 18 year? Is it because you’re rural and there’s not much driving?

How many of their political/moral songs are top 10 hits? What matters is that the issues are on a main stage, regardless of who’s speaking the words. The issues don’t change when a white guy talks about white equality, or a black guy talks about police brutality.

It’s below the Mason Dixon line, it’s the south east. You twat...

So comparing your normal life in a place where snow tires are mandated, to a southeastern US city that sees snow maybe once a year, is pretty silly, is it not?

Nobody wants to mention the likelihood of a sheet of ice covering all the roadways?

Isn’t that a little unfair?

I’ve been there, in Birmingham a few years ago, we got about an inch, but it started with rain and static temps right at 30* for a day, then it dropped into the teens and snowed. There was no way anyone…

I imagine, you have dedicated snow tires, as well as 95% of the rest of the driving population? Or do you run all seasons year round like most people in the SE US?

They always leave out the fact that there’s a solid sheet of ice underneath the “1 inch of snow”. Happened to us in the SE a few years ago, when Atlanta and Birmingham got absolutely shut down for a few days. All the news reports just said “a light dusting” and failed to mention that every inch of road surface was…

They should force competitors to maintain a .08 BAC level, keep things interesting.

Same reason I bought one. Cheers.

Wait hold on. You bought a TDI for fuel economy, but you weren’t intending on keeping it for an appreciable amount of time?

Did you actually do the fuel savings calculations? You need like at least 7 years ( I think) to break even vs a gas car with 25% worse economy. And with gas being so ridiculously cheap right now,…

But doesn’t driving a polluting car across the country go counter to their whole reason for not wanting to keep the car in the first place?

I’d wager a guess that maybe (I hope) we care about civilian casualties more so than before, so sweeping raids would be less efficient.