When y’all decided that regular english just wasn’t american enough.

3G Capital is a Brazilian firm I'm fairly sure

Nobody is likely to see this since I’m stuck in the greys but I feel like for most white people they miss an important fact that I heard from my father early on.

When a man is tired of his Hummer, he is tired of life.

Agreed, but I think this will hit a tipping point at which it will all fall down into something resembling sanity. I honestly wish the car makers could just put their pride to the side and let Apple and Google take over the experience. Dumb screens makes more sense for many reasons, thankfully one of which is an…

Tesla is the single standout that has for some reason done this. I have yet to see another car that has ditched physical buttons.

You’re missing the point, a touchscreen doesn’t NEED to be good while moving, it isn’t for that. And no, seriously, a small physical keyboard? Are you fucking joking? First off that would…

That second part of my comment wasn’t directed at you, though reading the comment back I can see how I wasn’t clear. What I was trying (and failed) to say is that designers shouldn’t need anyone to tell them that they are using touchscreens wrong, and that they would be stupid to assume that touchscreens should EVER…

I never said that, I said touchscreens are not for use WHILE IN MOTION. That’s an entirely different thing. They are good at one specific thing: data density and flexibility. They can become controls for anything we want, unlike physical buttons. So it makes sense to have a touchscreen for navigating menus or entering…

No, the people who assume you NEED feedback have missed the point.

Text and data entry mostly. It doesn’t need to be used constantly to be worthwhile, it only needs to make enough of a difference the times you DO use it

Number of occupants isn’t relevant to this discussion.

I’m not imaging anything, I’m describing how touchscreens exist today in cars. And yes, they are accompanied by physical buttons for the most common uses(HVAC, radio) that can be easily used while driving.

Just because the touchscreen exists does not mean it needs…

I didn’t go off on any sort of tangent, I replied to your complaint that touchscreens don’t have feedback, which you cited as a reason to go towards voice control.

That point of yours is flawed because you are making the assumption that you would even need to use the touchscreen while in motion, otherwise why are you…

The only item you’ve listed that my car has on the touchscreen is radio presets, but those can be toggled between with buttons on both the center stack and the steering wheel.

The touchscreen is used primarily for nav and settings, and for settings fixed things like my radio/Sirius presets. The touchscreen isn’t useful…

Thank you for understanding. This discussion seems to be 95% people who think that every button will suddenly become a touchscreen.

Imagine if we lived in a world where touchscreens are not sentient and won’t immediately destroy their old physical button competitors and instead we could CHOOSE to have both and use them each for the things they are good at.

Wouldn’t that be amazing? Oh wait, that’s what is already being done.

Why are you assuming those controls would be on the touchscreen rather than physical? Those controls are all physical on my car(but it also has a touchscreen).

Again you are assuming that it is one or the other, but we can clearly see that aside from some bad executions(Tesla) manufacturers realize that we want…

Yes, obviously. Everyone else in here is arguing touchscreens while starting from a wholly faulty premise that they are intended to be used while in motion. The very fact that common physical controls still exist prove that this isn’t the case.

Touchscreens are an ancillary entry method, to simplify things like…

You would never need to because THOSE SORTS OF THINGS TYPICALLY AREN’T ON THE TOUCHSCREEN. Physical buttons still exists.

Seriously people, the touchscreen is NOT FOR USE WHILE DRIVING. Stop arguing against it as though it was intended for use while moving. The physical and steering wheel buttons prove quite clearly…

You have started from the flawed assumption of what they should even be used for. They aren’t for entering data while driving they are there because of the added complexity they allow for things like settings, destination entry and the like.

While I’m driving there is no functionality on the touchscreen that is in any…

How about the unit that is sitting in my car, today, that I use every time I drive? It doesn’t require me to use the touchscreen for basically anything, the touchscreen serves as a handy way for keying in GPS destinations, configuring settings, pairing devices and such.