“regular daily-driver-grade NPC-ass traffic cars like this 2009 Dodge Challenger SRT-8". Look I’m not a huge Challenger fan, but calling this specific car an NPC mobile seems like a stretch... That should be reserved for the Dodge Nitros, Calibers, Journeys and Grand Caravans. C’mon man. 

50 tread wear tires?! What are you even talking about? Are you referring to the aspect ratio?  

Can it please come with more than 305HP? Thank goodness it appears they will ditch the 2.5 they had in the car for 17 years... I had a 2011 for a while, but didn’t consider any of the newer models because they engine was from 2004MY.

While I agree a green wagon is good, I’m going to play my trump card:

“Forced” seems like a pretty strong word. How are people being forced into these car deals?

I think 8flat is full of it, they never got under $100,000 from what I remember (I think i recall seeing some around 120-130K, they did dip down and depreciate, then quickly shot up and have since levelled off.

What about the C43 AMG Wagon? We get that in Canada. Big wagon guy myself...I considered the C43 AMG but would up with a 2nd Cadillac CTS-V wagon. I’m also in Calgary.

Not sure where this falls on the desperation scale....but.... I took a bank loan and a mom and dad loan (with interest) to pay for the Cadillac CTS-V wagon. Its paid off now don’t worry.

I wanted a 1999 Electron Blue Peal Civic Si (SIR in Canada land). I had a full list of modifications too. From a Jackson Racing supercharger, to Apexi exhaust and a DC header, Wings West body kit and super cliche Motegi MR7's for wheels. I wanted to destroy Mustangs and Camaros. Then i grew up and graduated and bought…

When I bought it September 2015 I had the front end 3M wrapped and bought OEM wheels with Blizzaks. However I quickly realized it was too nice for winter around here so I bought a 3rd vehicle as a winter car. I still own my first car (07 Mustang GT) and it did two winters on X-Ice tires but its now long retired from…

Thats how I got my CTS-V wagon! Although it was only 35% off after 4 years (but it only had 4360kms). This is also how I plan to purchase the RS6 Avant when it comes to N/A. Ironically I live in Airdrie and work in Calgary!

Depreciation is usually pretty predictable just gotta do your homework. My job is actually evaluating a vehicles present value as well as predicting future market values for lease customers. My parting note - avoid luxury cars and specifically Jag and Land Rover. Toyota’s for everyone!!! Good chat guys :)

Fair enough. I’m not sure what you categorize as “reasonable” but here is some food for thought after only 3 years!

Two things of note.

Okay, that makes more sense. I haven’t driven either, but I love the idea of both. I currently have a CTS-V wagon, but don’t daily it due to 6 month long winters... I personally like the Audi better (no real tangible reason, other than maybe its been unobtainable for so long). Happy they at least offer the E63 in…

How can you claim the E63 is “way better” vs. a car that isn’t released?!

Just because they are built in Canada doesn’t mean that they stay in Canada.  USA has 10x the population, to me it makes sense that there are 10x more GT’s in operation in the USA vs. Canada.  Am I missing something?

Unrelated to Jalopnik post...nice Wagon! I have one too.

Sounds like they are taking a page out of MB’s book... E43 AMG type BS.

Demon driver needs a driver mod. 9.65 was achieved with extra track prep and lots of practice. Have you ever tried to launch an 840HP RWDcar at the track?