The base is actually a 3.7L so that’s probably the confusion.

There’s no 2.7 on the Flex, it’s a regular 3.5 or the same 3.5 but boosted

Or about getting things done. Moving van, landscaping truck, people hauler, bike transporter, etc. all in one. My dad wouldn’t trade in our ‘05 Odyssey for the world unless it was for another identical one, and I wouldn’t either. There’s something to be said for the elegance of nothing but outright practicality.

That’s the thing. With two infant twins, you’re going to need a minivan. Specifically, a minivan with captain chairs in the second row because you will want easy access to the third row for semi-private diaper-changing/baby-feeding space.

What this dude needs is a Toyota Sienna.

How about a Ford Flex? Unique styling = yes. 2,000lbs tow rating. LOTS of room. Not the greatest MPG at 23 HWY. Plus you can get the with factory rook racks for camping/activity gear.

These posts are turning into “A minivan will fulfill all my needs 100% and be under budget, but I don’t want to buy a minivan, what should I buy?”

take it from me - father of 4. Just get a minivan. The Chrysler T&C can be had under budget and has more than enough room. Easy to drive and all. Or any other used minivan.

2+2=H2O

It’s a 2+2. It can go into the lake.

Also, no one is making a turn and looking for/expecting a car rocketing up on their position from behind at over 100 MPH, especially on what appears to be a suburban road.

Look at the YouTube video. The Smart car driver swung a little wide when making a U-turn onto a three-lane section of road. Also when he got into the lane in front of the police car the police car was at least 500 feet down the road (count the lane stripes; they’re typically 40 feet apart). If the policeman had been…

My wife’s Odyssey will be on E long after the light goes on. I fill the 20 gallon tank and only put 15 in. There’s 5 freaking gallons left when it’s on E.

“Jealous” the favorite word of douchebags everywhere.

Waiting for the aggrieved motorists to chime in.

Once upon a time there was a racing series called the Alliance Cup, which ran as a support event to IMSA and used identically-prepared - wait for it! - Renault Alliances. Not to mention SCCA’s Spec Racer Ford started off as Sports Renault, using the Alliance’s power train.

Having owned a dead reliable 79 Celica GT Liftback, this body style Celica has a special place in my heart.

Have you been on the highway much? Most interstates don’t have limits above 65MPH, and certainly almost all other highways don’t.

My apologies. You are welcome on my lawn.

Trust me. No one from Alabama is relocating to NY State. No one.