They don't understeer like crazy in Fourza if you use sim steering and tune them like you would a real car.

I'm with ya.

You can't tune cars in Horizon? Or just in the demo?

I'll download it in an hour or two. Can anyone report if the physics are "need for speed" or still sim-esque "forza"?

MK1.5 MR2. 3S-GTE in an AW11. Easily-attainable 350hp in a tiny MK1 MR2.

True, but it does not.

Skybird. Eew.

Same here.

You know they had a speed6 right? With the same engine as a speed3 + AWD.....

Not really. I have a beautiful ST165 sitting in my driveway that the owner paid $6k for. And it came with a parts car. And three extra sets of stock wheels, and two sets of Scion TC wheels. Sure the ST185's like this go for a bit more, but not $16k unless you are crazy. $8-10k will usually buy you a very nice one.

A real All-Trac could be had for similar money.

I have never, ever heard of rotors lasting that long.

The Warthog is actually an M12 LRV (light reconnaissance vehicle). Just sayin'.

Truth.

Man, I just finished my lunch. Why must you make me puke it all up? WHY???

Indeed. With what appears to be a shifter setup from a 1993+ SW20 MR2.

Drive a proper car with three pedals. The end.

Terrible. Absolutely terrible. It's weird to think that the current design is going to be the peak of Corvette design. Shame.

I get what you say, but the NA Miata's have chassis like wet noodles. Not until the Mazdaspeed NB did they have enough chassis bracing from the factory.

Try being faster than a MK1.5 MR2 (3S-GTE swap). Just try.