THIS. “Caught up” really makes it sound like this shit happened by accident. As if any of us could just get “caught up” in something like this by no fault of our own.
THIS. “Caught up” really makes it sound like this shit happened by accident. As if any of us could just get “caught up” in something like this by no fault of our own.
This essay should be FAR more widely read:
Seriously. Am I supposed to feel bad if CK or others don’t get their own TV show again? No one is preventing these guys from having a job and providing for themselves and their family. Show business depends on folks paying to see you work, and if enough of us don’t want to hear you talk anymore, then go do something…
Also the phrase “men who are caught up in it” is a ridiculous way of making it seem like the men are victims. Louis CK wasn’t accidentally “caught up” in me too, he is a sexual predator who is responsible for his own actions.
Ugh seriously thank you! The double speak! “I’m not empathetic to Louis getting his career back. I’m just empathetic to the idea that he needs a way to get his career back.” “I’m not welcoming his return, im just happy he’s finding a way to move forward.” Those words mean the same things, Ian Michael Black!!
This. It’s a career. I worked in a place that had a guy who thought it was great to act like a cross between Louis CK and Steve Carrell from The Office. He had a habit of throwing out casually racist things, farting everywhere, doing things sexually to others, pranks, etc and played it all with this "I'm just a…
This is it exactly. They’re attempting to come back, but there isn’t any real hint of even understanding what it is they’ve done wrong or why it’s wrong. There’s no indication they’re at all interested in changing their ways or learning from this experience, or even really acknowledging the situation, or even really…
I used to like Michael Ian Black but I find his “I’m not saying I forgive Louis CK, I’m just saying we need to figure out a way we can forgive Louis CK” discussions to be very exhausting.
Yes!!! This is work, people! It’s literally an office environment like any other. Imagine if your boss got caught jerking off in front of women, was fired, and then nine months later was rehired. Ridiculous!
I’ll be honest—the women that these men victimized are serving a life sentence of having all the same feelings of shock and disgust come right back up again whenever they see these assholes, so why shouldn’t they have to serve a life sentence of keeping the fuck out of the spotlight? There are some things you do that…
I feel like these guys are hoping for forgiveness (or maybe just... forget-ness?), but they’re skipping the steps where you really work to acknowledge, not minimize, the harm you did, AND you take steps to make things right. Forgiveness shouldn’t automatically happen because time passes, and victims don’t owe it to…
It is not a contradiction to say we don’t need to focus on helping these people do stuff to be forgiven and continue their careers while also pointing out that none of them have done a thing--such as counseling or supporting victims in some way--to show that they are trying to change in any way.
I would also like to point out that Louis getting back into the business throws an admitted predator into the work place for these comedians. Women will continue to feel unsafe in a business that basically says that a famous man is more important than a safe work environment.
Until a person who has committed an offense has actually acknowledged what they’ve done, apologized, and made every effort to make amends, I refuse to accept them as a fellow human. I don’t care if it’s cutting me off in traffic or murder.
Your prison rape fantasies aren't helping.
Not like it’s actually the sperm that determines gender, at all.
And the more likely to cover up child sexual abuse.
So... there are a lot of good men in my life but I’m gonna need all men to just disappear for a good long while. The other day a man called me a bitch when I declined his request to pet my dog (she is scared of strangers petting her). Go away for awhile, guys. Until you can figure out that women are not here solely to…
I wanna know what the rest of Saudi Doody’s rap sheet looks like, because I gotta know what the first 28 years look like before you become this fucked up.
All extreme religious orthodoxy; the “holier”, the more misogynistic and homophobic. ALL OF THEM.