JeffOwl
JeffOwl
JeffOwl

Oh, yes, absolutely, there was a huge number of people voting “not Hillary.” I wonder just how many Johnson voters were voting “not-Trump.” I’d guess a fairly large percentage. Johnson brought in nearly 4x as many votes this time than he did last time. If he had managed to get up to 5% he could have qualified his

Wow, “Dingus.” You really told me. Is this the typical level of discourse for a Hillary supporter? No wonder people were completely uninspired and mostly voted for her out of hate for Trump. A vote for Johnson, is a vote against the establishment. Hillary doesn’t own any vote but her own. People like you are why we

This is all academic anyway, but either side could have dropped out at any time regardless of what the other did. If Jill had thought that Donald was as big a threat as some people she would have dropped out. Of course Gary’s votes swamped Jill’s but he wasn’t going to drop out no matter what. Most polls actually have

Trump is a red herring. You and your Hillary supporters, along with the Democrat power structure, pushed aside a man who could have made real change for the better. The US didn’t opt for Trump, they went with anti-establishment. Republicans, of all people, broke free; Democrats did not. Prior to this election, the

How is voting for Johnson advocating killing fellow Americans?

And now you try to make it personal. Ain’t no hate like Hillary hate.

You totally don’t get it. But there you go, reinforcing what he said about what he has to put up with from people that don’t even know him.

I have exactly one friend that is what I would call rich i.e. well into the 1%. I had that discussion with him this morning. He voted for not-Hillary (Johnson) for two reasons: 1. He’s sick of the current political landscape and the foreign policy of the US that doesn’t change no matter who is in the White House

Shit, that’s terrible. but if it’s the worst that these kids do to their classmates all year I’d call that about average where/when I grew up. Kids just don’t understand the damage they do. Many of them that end up to be great people later in life start out as borderline sociopaths.  

It is funny you bring up Wisconsin and Michigan, maybe it was intentional. But those are two states where, last I looked, if all the Jill voters had gone for Hillary, she would have beat Trump. Probably not enough to change the overall election, but enough to put us into the same kind of uncertain state we were in

You wanna hear something funny... Based on just a very quick look...

tl;dr : The Democrats needed a non-establishment candidate to beat Trump.

The same thing will happen as happened last time. There will be such a backlash in two years that the Senate will go back to the Democrats, the how margin will narrow. In four years there will be no chance for reelection.

Trump has no political record to speak of. His entire campaign was fear mongering. Nobody truly know what is going to happen. Keep your chin up for the next few months at least.

Didn’t work out for Bush senior. Don’t start the car in the garage just yet. We need you in 2020.

worked our asses off to elect Clinton

To the Democrats for putting forth possibly the only candidate Trump could beat. Fuck you.

Typical, I don’t know. But if you want to ride 160 miles out to the country, and then 25 miles up forest service or logging roads with your camping gear, I don’t know anything else on two wheels that works better. This, however, is not that bike.

A lot of it is how you ride it. My 650 gets 55 when I commute to work during the week. When I ride on weekends it gets 40-45.

Based only on what you posted, he very likely did earn both. If he is typical, the money he paid into SS would be worth more today than what he is getting out of it and Agent Orange exposure is serious business. That shit can have serious effects later in life.