Well, to be fair, in a world where everyone is complaining of rape, assault, and sexual harassment, him being a manipulative emotionally abusive piece of shit is not as bad?

To be fair, they warned us it was gonna be trash when they named it after a trash song by the world’s shittest band, so...

William H. Macy. I am pretty sure he is decent.

t can forever be presented as evidence if anyone complains millenials are terrible... cause gen-Xers are terrible too.

The total psycho lack of emotion that she and Sadie have makes them scarier to me than Leslie Van Houten and Patricia Krenwinkle, somehow...

There was no father listed on the birth certificate, so either she genuinely didn’t know or the father wasn’t a member of the Family. I assume if it were, she’d have listed him.

Exactly! Some influencers get teenage girls to buy lipgloss, like Kylie Jenner, some get people to kill.

Yes. I am very curious about how she joined. Cause it seems most of the others who joined were already runaways or small-time criminals when they met Manson, like Tex Watson was. I’d just want to understand how someone who was still part of regular society decides to do that. He’d grown up mostly in prison, so I…

Humor helps people deal with unspeakable darkness. That doesn’t mean we are laughing at the murders.

Ah, the name changer one is also with the first wife?

She did. I was giving her extra crazy points for being the first one, and also for having joined the at the time non-existent Family when she was not a hippie runaway like several others (or the child of a crazyass father, like Ouisch, Ruth Ann Moorehouse). She was a librarian.

I am not sure he actually shot Hinman or Shea, but in the end, it makes no difference. He got off on commanding people to kill, and it is not any different than someone who hires a hitman for murder. He is still responsible, and as you said, it is not like he was any good before The Family.

Event Planner had me lol’ing.

I mean, technically he didn’t kill anyone. He just told other people to kill, tied up the LaBiancas (according to Tex Watson - according to himself, he didn’t...), and then moved the bodies of Jay Sebring and Sharon Tate. But I mean, he was not a killer-killer, to use a Whoopi Goldberg definition!

Well, in George’s defense, they never said he couldn’t sleep with the cleaning lady, nor did they say that taking naps under his desk was forbidden. And nobody told Elaine that using the company credit card to buy a mink hat was not ok.

Fear not, for Mary Brunner also had seriously crazy eyes. I’d say she was the second craziest Manson girl, after Susan Atkins, maybe. Cause maybe she gets to be The Craziest since she is the OG Manson Girl, and it might take extra craziness to volunteer to be the first?

I believe he only had 2, and one committed suicide. AFAIK he didn’t father kids with the other Manson girls, only one with Mary Brunner.

Freaks would visit the city dump then.

Candace Cameron Bure has a good niche as a tuna pouch spokesperson. She just screams tuna pouches, doesn’t she?

Wait, is this grandson the son of the son he had with his first wife and who committed suicide? Or is he the son of “Pooh Bear”, the kid he fathered with “Mother Mary”, Mary Brunner?