Let’s not forget that because of the very low battery pack and motor placement the Model 3 has a very low roll center, polar moment of inertia, and instantaneous torque.

I’ll tell you a major reason why people buy SUVs. To carry their age-augmented, gravitationally-enhanced self, friends and family around. There have been at least 3 cases where it took an act of congress to get people in and out of my Model 3.

Model 3's get really close to that with the V3 superchargers. 90+% of the time people will charge from home. Chargers are popping up everywhere. There will be chargers installed at most apartments with parking if the demand is there.

Imagine a car takes you 30 seconds of your life to charge, and can go over 300 miles on a charge.  Would that make you happy?

When I bought my 1999 Dodge Intrepid with the horrendous 2.7 V6 free was too high a price. They should have paid me to take that POS off the lot. 20K mark-up on a base vehicle 20 years ago, if memory serves.

It really bothered me when you said

Screw you, man. I’m not going to feel bad for making sound financial decisions. I’m also not going to feel bad for driving in the carpool lane alone. I’m not going to feel bad for the 40k in tax savings I got over the years for my cars and solar panels. I don’t make the rules of the game. But I am going to use those…

My Model 3 is fantastic for long distance trips. I’ve taken 3 so far in 1 year 2 that were 1000 miles and 1 that was over 2000 miles round trip. Spent ~35 bux on the 1000 milers, and 60 bux on the 2000 mile for electricity.

Yes, it just depends on your dedication to the project.

Total Recall.

Total Recall

Yes, you can get a 25-year old van from Japan for 1/4 the price. However, to be fair, the Revel is based on a Sprinter 4x4 Diesel which MSRP for over 50K. A new Revel goes for ~150K, so the build-out and dealer profit is 100K. That is a lot.

So this. There has been an explosion of Class B motorhomes as well. If you can swing it, Winnebago Revels are awesome.

Interleaving rotors might be a better choice for packaging.

And without a tail rotor it’s just going to spin you to death if you try to fly the thing.

Edit: I meant 300 WH (watt-hours) I added the K in front by force of habit.

You are missing the part about getting the electricity to the batery and you are full of shit anyway. Charging and discharging the battery causes waste heat. you only get the 99+% efficiency if you don’t do those things.

no, you don’t. Solar might give you 20-30 miles a day, if you don’t use anything else in your house.

Why do I need to drive less?  My car is powered by the solar panels on the roof of my house.  In fact I produce more electricity than I consume.

Basically none of these are true in the long-game, which is what Toyota is playing. I can walk through them one-by-one, but since we’ve had this discussion previously it’s not worth the trouble.