Well... think of it like remixing or sampling a song. Vanilla Ice’s hit song, “Ice Ice Baby”, blatantly steals the iconic baseline from David Bowie and Freddy Mercury’s classic “Under Pressure”. It was a major component of the song, and implied consent by Mercury and Bowie by using it. But the music was not used with…

But it doesn’t have to be. I’m sorry, but your response really gets under my skin because I work as a graphic designer, and I have to do deal with that same attitude from clients, from family, from strangers on the internet... working on art isn’t seen as a “real” job because it is simply a hobby for so many people.…

I think that describes long-running shonen stories in general.

I think it’s because I wasn’t entirely clear about what I meant... I was simply arguing against one point without clarifying a solid counterpoint. I don’ tknow much about what it costs to run Steam, but I feel like as the host body they’re entitled to at least some money. If something is sold at auction the auction…

It’s nice that you’re able to poke all these holes in my analogy, but if you don’t obsess on the pedantic details you might understand what I’m getting at. You’re the one who inserted the waiter analogy that completely missed the hyperbole of my original statement.

If the manufacturer is distributing and promoting the modified car, then yes. You’re muddying the issue because a modified vehicle is a single product owned by an individual. If someone were to somehow changed the data on the physical game disk and privately sell the disk on their own to another individual that would…

The only reason modding isn’t a job is because there isn’t a way to reliably and legally monetize it. If this program had been tweaked to be more generous to the modder it could eventually fix that. The analogy only fails if you suppose that, because modding has only existed as a hobby up until this point, that it has…

Let’s go with your analogy then with the restaurant selling food that is guaranteed to be paid for. If we apply the logic you’re talking about here then that would mean that the tip is the only form of payment for the waiter. So let’s see how well things work if someone were to open a restaurant where the wait staff…

That’s easy to say when your examples are programs and devices expressly built for the purpose of allowing people to create new things with their software. Those products have End User License Agreements that allow their products to be used in that manner without needing to credit or license the finished product from…

Your argument seems to hinge on the fact that I’m in support of the 75/25 split the developers are giving to the modders. My instinct is to say that split isn’t fair... but I don’t know the numbers well enough to really have an opinion. I’m not an accountant or a game developer or a modder... I don’t know exactly how…

I agree. I understand the debate about just how much of a cut of the profits Valve/Bethesda should receive, but this idea that modders should be obligated to work for free and survive off whatever scraps the occasional gamer deigns to offer them is just so entitled and venomous it really got under my skin.

And all the leeches who just want free content forever can have their self-important, entitled attitudes justified by the results, comfortable in the fact that they reap all the benefits without giving anything of their own. That’s fair. I think we should implement that attitude across society... I’m sure every…

I’ve said the same thing in conversation with others... sure, the game modder is doing a lot of work already. But did they create the asssets of the game? Did they build the dedicated fan base? Did they eat the cost of hiring scores of testers to make sure the game didn’t explode, and did they pay the development…

I agree completely.

I hope that they reassess what they were working on and create a new, better system for rewarding hard working modders who help to keep interest in their games alive. Personally, the system seemed fine to me, but it’s hard to deal with entitled users who violently resist change that results in them actually having to…

Halloween release date, eh? So we can expect the finished game some time later tonight?

Here I thought this was going to end up on the list because of these tiny rearview mirrors that are way up at the front of the car....

How many other mods are having serious trouble with the new system and issues with assets that are treated as shared freely within the modding community? Because if this is the only major problem to arise on the part of thew new modders dipping their toes into this new marketplace I will find it hilarious with all the…

If someone wants to create mods and distribute them for free they’re still able to do so if, if that’s important to them. I’m certain that most professional game designers also love the games they create... yet they’re not considered obligated to release their product for free.

Are you saying this as a hard working modder yourself, or as a consumer who is used to getting as much content as you want for free?