I was in no way trying to compare you to blue lives matter, and if I phrased it poorly enough that it appeared I was, I apologize. That is 100% on me. My intent was only to compare things people can choose to identify with to things people can not.

I think important distinctions revolves around oppression/minority and choice.

This.

Never said he couldn’t voice an opinion, He can say whatever he wants, and I can call him an asshole for it. I can also decide I’m not engaging with assholes anymore.

No I’m not native, which is why I have been saying that the Cherokee are the only one who get to decide if a use of Cherokee is offensive.

Cherokee County was named by the Cherokee people as that is where their tribe is now located after the Trail of Tears. So regardless of if Jeep named it after the tribe or the place, they are still appropriating the tribe’s name.

Yeah, not going to have a “ civilized and matter-of-fact conversation” with the guy who told me to suck it. Your pleas for me be nice to the guy who started with “I call bullshit” then decided for the Cherokee nation if the use was derogatory or not has been noted, and disregarded.

What if Kia renamed the lowest time level Rio after you, and made it clear in the ads that it was the crappy penalty-box version that people only bought because they were a loser. And then despite that they sold millions of them. So everywhere you go you see your name on crappy cars people make fun of, your name…

Ah, so you intended to be an asshole. Got it. Thank you for clearing that up.

You are intentionally misunderstanding things to support your point. It was no more acceptable for Pontiac to do it than for Jeep to do it. GM got away with it because, as I already said, the brand went defunct before the current social climate where people take this sort of appropriation more seriously. So the …

Because Pontiac was ditched before we started actually having useful discussions about appropriating the names of oppressed minority groups to sell products?

Unless you are Cherokee, you don’t have a right to “call bullshit” on their feelings regarding the use of their tribe’s name to sell a product. You also don’t get to decide if something is derogatory to them or not.

Apparently. They claim they are selling a “license” for the software to run the feature, and the “license” is not transferrable. 

(I will preface this that I’m not their target market, because while I could easily swing the payments, I have no desire to. And we’re currently shopping sub-$4K cars to replace a ‘04 Scion bought 5-ish years ago for $1,800)

I did something similar recently. The back wall of the garage I built benches into as an early covid lockdown project, then the west wall was a few months later. If freed up the left bay, but the right bay was full of a large pile of random crap piled on the ground, and a terrible shelf with a similar mix of random…

I have the wire-strung ones, and they are great, as you can check threads of holes or studs attached to the car, which is useful if the fastener has gone missing.

Helped some very not car savvy friends buy a car in early 2020. They needed a 2nd car as she had just started driving, and were also looking to trade in their old car on a newer used car if a good deal came up.

My first car was a hand-me-down Taurus wagon that I did all the typical dumb 16 year old boy stuff with (and some less typical), so once I was done with it, it was *trashed*. It was traded in for $500 towards a Ranger for my dad’s business. A few months later we went back to the dealer to get a warranty issue dealt…

I want a kei truck so badly as a dump/lowes run truck. But my rule for myself is anything I buy has to seat a minimum of 3 people, as that is the size of our household. Looking for crew-cab kei trucks I stumbled on Nissan Atlas ex-fire trucks. That is a very interesting rabbit hole to fall down, but sadly they aren’t…

I said it was stupid. They would go out of business in no time, but can you imagine a company at SEMA proudly revealing their perfect replica 1978 Plymouth Volare sedan?