IkerCatsillas1
IkerCatsillas
IkerCatsillas1

I also support the right of Jews to self-determination. But as a Jewish ethno-nationalist state, Israel cannot uphold equal rights. That is a fact. So the question then, is, can a Jewish state exist that doesn’t systematically violate basic human rights?

I just realized that the subtitles don’t appear automatically — make sure you have them on!

Too real!

Gotta love those trains...

So they peddle smarm, but disguise it as airy snark?

Yeah, that would be another issue. But it isn’t what happened here. So I think it’s more important to focus on why this woman was singled out and made to leave her child’s school, rather than the security implications of a completely different scenario.

If the UK hasn’t withdrawn from the ECHR by then.

Exactly!

Well, there’s also the fact that it’s not clear whether school policies on religious garb for teachers and students would even apply to this woman in the first place:

Actually, it’s not clear whether school any policy on religious garb would apply to visitors, as the Guardian says:

Here’s another, newly created by the looks of it:

I mean, there are a lot of rituals other women undergo daily that I find goofy. As long as none of them poses a threat to my security — and it’s clear that this woman’s choice doesn’t — I’m fine with it.

Meh. Anyway, the security issue here is moot. As the article states, the woman carries an ID that shows her face, and always unveils when asked for security purposes. The security at the school weren’t the ones who told her she had to leave. It was when she was meeting her daughter’s teachers and other parents that

I know that. But your initial comment was quite a bit broader, about banning coverings in “UK society” in general. That didn’t happen with hoodies, and I don’t think it’s really accurate to equate the two situations.

The school has security for that. In the article, the woman in question explains that her identification shows her face, that she always removes her veil when asked to verify her identity by security, and that the school’s security didn’t have a problem with her. It was only once she was in the school, interacting

But those were largely bans on private property, right? I mean, I remember there being a few places that went so far as to ban hoodies outright, but in general it was shops and other establishments.... or bans on particular individuals wearing hoodies, in the case of Asbos.

This is so comically misguided on the part of the administrators. You’re worried about veiled Muslim women not integrating into British society... so you bar a veiled Muslim woman from visiting her daughter’s school, thus making it far more likely that she pulls her daughter out of said school...making both the girl

The woman explains that her photo ID has her face uncovered, and when asked to show her identity at the school entrance, she briefly removes her face covering to show her face, and then puts it back on afterwards. So if she’s passed through a security check, which has identified her, then she’s no longer a risk.