I think the feeling from a lot of the “ho-hum” reviews is that, up to now, most newer EVs have been offering something “Exciting” and “Different.” They’ve had unique features or eyeball-flattening acceleration or drive-it-yourself tech or SOMETHING that sets them apart from the typical gas car.

I don’t get all the ID.4 ho-hum reviews. I test drove one and really impressed at what you get for the money. Great features, everything felt well-made, and it was comfortable to drive. It has a tremendously comfortable rear seat for a 6'1" adult (I could easily sit behind myself with at least 4" of knee room).

Stellantis could literally shove a Chrysler badge on this and sell it immediately here in the states. I think it’d sell. 

its in that really annoying space between wagon and crossover. I want an actual low to the ground wagon, not a lifted wagon that handles like an SUV
What we need is this, the Arteon R wagon

Chicken vs egg. No one will install a plug for a vehicle they don’t have.

PHEVs are very much what the US needs in the short term. The most environmentally conscious people I know still aren’t willing to get an EV because of the compromises around them. PHEVs solve 90% of the issues without adding any compromises to car ownership. Considering we keep hearing how constrained the battery cell…

Your same criticisms of PHEVs can be leveled at 350mi range BEVs. Why take on an extra 800lbs of weight to have 350mi driving range when the average American commute is 32mi round trip. At the end of the day, both are dragging around a bunch of weight for things they don’t need most days.

As of 2 days ago, I now have 2 PHEVs in my garage. The current BEVs will not work for my use case. I’m sure in the future they will. At this point I’d need to have 2 BEVs and 2 gas cars to meet my family’s needs. I feel that 2 PHEVs makes way more sense. 

I can’t wait to get back to business travel, nor can most of my colleagues. Granted, I’m not one of those people who was 100% on the road, so it’s a perk for me. Most of my clients are looking forward to in-person meetings as well, despite the expense.

Neutral: Slideshows....

It benefited far more Leaf owners than Ferrari owners. 

TLDR: Not when considering the advance of technology.

Can we just say what everyone is thinking? This thing is hideous inside and out.

1 of 1 BMW? Peasants, please.

No, it’s a terrible value proposition no matter who you are.

Also: would this be, like, “American Bubble Tea”?

I bet Atlanta would have issue with that...

Does it matter if you use Coke with sugar or HFCS? There’s a noticeable difference in taste and mouth feel between the two.