You know, I generally agreed with the Anti-Embargo comments until I read that from you.

1987. Turbos, man. That and the beginning of EFI reclaiming the performance that emissions controls had strangled out of cars. This was the Renaissance of performance that led to what we have today.

Sir, you beat me to the punch.

So why isn't it the American way to give the same breaks to American companies? And I don't mean Wal-Mart, I mean Dodge, GM, and Ford.

Then please, enlighten me. What was your angle?

You cherrypick info so hard.

@Patrick George

Jealous? Of what? I built my car in my garage and it's faster than this overpriced under performing POS.

The problem with dealerships is that people think they're the OEM.

No, all high performance cars today are quicker, and most regular ones.

And why aren't we racing our historic spaceship car?

A toyobaru being faster than something isn't a good quality, it just means the offending something is really, really, really, really slow. Besides that, it's not faster, it's a wash. Both these cars run a 15.4 second 1/4 mile, which is economy car and truck territory, NOT sports car territory. 'fast' shouldn't even…

And more than double the weight (5800lbs), 1.5 times the drag coefficient, and probably twice the frontal area. Also, we have the same amount of valves and fuel injectors despite me having double the cylinders. Oh, and it has 4x as many cams! And 2.5 more points of compression!

Lol a GTi is not bang for your buck. That's slow for what it costs.

And if you only care about the name, than the Camaro is the perfect car for you.

I see you and raise (lower?) you a Fiero. Surely he can afford that.

I love you guys. Agree 1000%.

Jalopnik is the wrong site for you bud.

Whats nice about a V6 for that kind of money?

My brother!