Ah, so you still opted to sit at the table.

Lovely, then.

Would you like to browse the list of Victim Categories you can attempt to claim to be part of to elicit sympathy and get free shit?

We have a special today on Gender War and Hypocrisy. Two for one!

Perhaps the dessert - I mean, false moral superiority - menu?

Would…

Would you rather a direct quote from Rand?

Oh, to you she might as well be [Redacted: Godwin's Law].

You don't want to open that can of worms.

But suffice to say, you're incorrect.

Ah, argumentum ad hominem, party of one?

Your self-loathing table is ready. Free razor blades.

Oh, yeah, and California totally doesn't try to Force people fleeing its destitute economy and terrible social conditions to surrender their money and property at less than market rates by FORCE when they leave, right?

It's called Evolution.

Oh, it's just me?

"You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down. You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.…

Some do. And either way, their money is in the mix - even if you pay the premium, it's usually only half or so, the other half is the employer's rate.

So right now, your money can only buy insurance cheaply if you go through a group plan at an employer.

And the employer is taking money that they aren't keeping for…

How about we just pay for them ourselves, instead of encouraging entitlements and using force to steal that money?

How about it being voluntary?

Quelle horreur, indeed!

Oh, okay.

So it's HOGWASH to call taking my money by threat of imprisonment, death, violence, further theft of my other property, or further debt enforced by the others, theft?

And it's HOGWASH to then call spending that without considering my opinion on its expenditure tyranny?

And it's HOGWASH to point out that…

Nope. Gilded Age bullshit was not Capitalism, it was Cronyism. People playing favorites.

Yeah, we could have an entire discussion on the preamble.

You likely don't *want* to, but we could.

Words of note: "Promote" is not "Force", power doesn't imply moral authority, just ability, etc.....

Nope, you're still advocating the use of Government Mandates [Force].

You're also advocating the theft of the people's money who pay the lawmakers to make, administrate, and manage those mandates, as well as the theft of an unwilling party [the Employer] to pay for things they may or may not want to pay for.

Mandate less, lower taxes, and they'd have less incentive to do that.

No, Medicaid should be eliminated.

Moralist Arguments are Moralist.

Statist Arguments are Statist.

Libertarian hates both.

Right Country, wrong people running it - read the Constitution lately?

Federalist Papers?

This is simple shit.

So how about diverting that compensation directly to the employee, and they can then use that compensation to buy the insurance they want?

Oh, but that would require less mandates and less free shit that Someone Else Has To Pay For™

Oh, yes, I'm the moron because I advocate for ALL people as Individuals, and not just selective Victim Categories that are cause célèbre and I don't use ridiculous shit like argumentum ad populum?

Get bent.