Don't use pills, you'll likely end up in a hospital if you call 911 beforehand. Unless you live in Detroit and the response time is 45 minutes, firearms or hanging is your best bet. I say this purely so you don't end up chained to a bed while your parents stare at you from across the room.

If they are suicidal, people are neither connected to them nor caring for them.

I get that people choose suicide because they are in pain and feel everyone would be better off without them

"I can't speak for everyone who is depressed or suicidal, but I don't believe people commit suicide because they want to die. The commit suicide (or attempt to) to stop the pain."

Sampling bias. The reason you never knew the people who would have regretted surviving is because they took steps to make sure they wouldn't survive. I'm not waking up in a hospital with people staring at me.

You should stay alive because I am entertained by your presence and I would be sad if you left, and you make other people happy."

Spoken like a true rich white christian man.

> This is a part of the prejudice we face as MRAs. People assume that because men have traditionally been "on top" in society, we somehow cannot be oppressed by patriarchal norms and traditional gender roles/stereotypes.

This may or may not work depending on how bad your phobia is.

It's strange to hear that necessary tools for success include a lifelong friend and a spouse. My brain should've probably got that memo before developing mental illness.

Part of what I hate so much about the MRM is that it is a quest for men's RIGHTS. What rights as a citizen of America have men had to fight for? If you are interested in starting a progressive movement with the goal of equality for all genders, I would start with a different name, seeing as the majority of jackasses…

My mistake, poor choice of words.

I know exactly how female genitalia operate, and why female circumcision is a pretty horrid thing to do to someone. That still doesn't make it permissible for doctors to advocate for cosmetic surgery on an infant for christ sake. My point is we should be against genital modification for both genders, and not try to…

Yeah, I'm sure my sarcasm was pretty clear, but whatever.

BUT IT'S THE CLITORIS GUYS!! THE CLITORIS!

Yes, but most FGM happens in third world countries in poor conditions. This doesn't happen in first-world USA where doctors advise parents to 'consent' to a cosmetic surgery on an infant. There's a lot of awful shit that happens in these countries, but allowing the same ideals in the US is what I find outrageous. How…

Ugh, this is like arguing that we shouldn't be outraged at the Steubenville boys because they just 'fingered' her, and didn't 'really rape' her. So don't expect me to be outraged to the same degree as an actual rape. I mean, compared to an actual rape, fingering isn't even that bad. I don't know why those boys got…

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