EtherBreather
EtherBreather
EtherBreather

The sun did not shine
It was too wet to play
So we sat there at CPAC
All that cold, cold wet day

It also doesn't help that I watched each of those movies probably 3 times per week from age 8-13

NOPE. IT WAS NOT. See other commenter's correct response re: The Neverending Story.

Yes, THAT'S the reference. I mixed up my 80s fantasy movies, damn, I'm an old and getting older.

Was that an Aaron Carter-Labyrinth reference?

Yes. We are on the same page I believe. It is futile trying to compare the products of risk probability multiplied by risk "value" (according to game theory) to arrive at a logical decision if the risk values can't be agreed upon. I e , I place a very low negative value on c sections and a very high negative value on

Can you elaborate on what facilities etc and personnel constitute a birth center, and what contracts/agreements they are required to have with nearby hospitals?

If we're comparing 0.6% to 1%, indeed the absolute risk difference is minimal. But since we're comparing two mutually exclusive options that one can choose from, the relative risk (at this level of absolute risk) makes a difference for me. If it was 0.006% vs. 0.01%, then maybe I wouldn't care.

Please excuse my use of "crazy", not meant to be pejorative although I know that is sometimes the implication. However, we will have to agree to disagree that a 1% risk of mortality is low.

How is a birthing center not a hospital if you had a cesarean in it?

Well... the analogy isn't perfect you're right. But my point was that you are increasing your child's risk of a rare but catastrophic outcome. So, in order to justify taking that risk, one might suppose that the downside of a hospital birth is so onerous that it's worth the home birth risk. You're right about hospital

I agree. It sounds like you've found yourself stuck with an unfortunate group of OBs. However, I strongly believe that shouldn't color your views toward the HOSPITAL or medical establishment as a whole. The strengths of the hospital as a place for birthing lie not in its individual practitioners but rather in its

Epidurals have been conclusively determined to increase the length of labor a bit, but do not increase the risk of needing a c-section. My philosophy is, if it lengthens labor a bit but it's much more comfortable the whole time, go for it.

I'm happy it worked out for you, but for the sake of discussion it's important to remember that statistics were not on your side (see my other response):

Various reviews (by ACOG and midwife assoc) demonstrate an approx 4-fold increase in neonatal mortality for home births. Granted, the absolute risk is low (0.4-1.6%) but relative risk matters when deciding what to do. Analogous to deciding whether to buckle your child's seatbelt.

WHAT THE FUCK KIND OF WELL-LIT EXAM ROOM IS THIS?

I commonly overlooked, but VERY IMPORTANT POINT, is: don't allow your credit card to carry a BALANCE. The exorbitant interest rates they charge will end up wiping out any benefit you've accrued to developing your credit score. Rather, pay each monthly bill in full, on time. Those interest rates can reach 20-30%.

Zohydro is hydrocodone. Vicodin is hydrocodone/acetaminophen. So to say Zohydro is an opiate ten times stronger than Vicodin is misleading/incorrect. They're the same opiate ("opioid" is the preferred catchall term for natural OR synthetic opiates).]

But yes, still longer recovery w/ section. Best of luck to you with your TOLAC!