Darn, just when I was getting excited about seeing an EV minivan. There are dozens of us! Dozens!

I, for one, will not jump to conclusions. Will wait for more information and evidence to come to light, to see if this is an orchestrated investigation (a la Tucker) or legitimate (a la Twentieth Century Motor Car Company).

Agreed.  That’s why these ‘free marketeers’, politicians and all, need to STFU about “SUBSIDIES” to EVs.

yeah no one making under 50k is buying an electric car. your proposing an effective end to the credit, yet demanding a continuation of the imperious status quo of subsidizing oil.

Government subsidies for car buying should be limited to businesses!

I’d like to see the subsidy changed from a discount on the car to being paid to electricians for completely installing L2 chargers at buyers homes. It would be great if buyers didn’t have to sort that part out and just knew that a licensed electrician would take care of the install for them (up to $7500 which should…

100% agree, and would add that there needs to be language that prevents the maker from stripping range down to meet that “affordability” target. I owned a Focus EV, bought used, and the limited range was great for our application (40 mile round trip commute) in the summer, but with HVAC on for the rest of the rear it…

“...let the marketplace decide...”

Yup, people who are buying $60k+ EVs don’t need the tax credit. The tax credit should max at like $40k, with it increasing as the cost of the vehicle goes down. 

If there is another EV tax incentive, it should only go towards affordable EVs or middle to low income people only. Luxury and high end EVs have already proven themselves to be competitive. Well off people have already shown they like and can afford EVs as well have the detached private homes that really suit EVs…

But perhaps the biggest issue is the fact that hydrogen could enable us to stick with the same fossil fuels that we’re trying to eradicate. In other words, if hydrogen turns out to be scarce and we still have a combustion engine in our car, we’re likely to just turn back to gasoline.

I’ve long been highly critical of hydrogen as a transporation energy carrier; however, in defending my criticism I’ve found the main argument/fever dream of hydrogen’s proponents has been to ultimately only use hydrogen from renewable sources so no fossil fuels. This hydrogen would only be produced from *free* surplus …

And if you use electricity to make the hydrogen to run the converted plants with electrolysis, you would seem to be behind.

Ive been saying this for years here on Jalopnik: hydrogen is a really bad fuel for transportation. 

Hydrogen can work great and be extremely green. You just have to be a bit blue about how to make it.

That’s not their concern, so no. Their concern is a lot of extra traffic by tourist off-roaders degrading the roads and making noise.

This is trying to be clever but really ignores the reality of what a bunch of ppl can do to roads when they go all over the place where they shouldnt. Which they do/will.

The roads they’re talking about absolutely were not made for motor vehicles.

“Wreckless”