Ugh. White people didn't "take it back".

Huh. Interesting, intelligent point.

Oh, wait, my bad, you just called me a racist and moved on. That's not interesting or intelligent or to the point at all.

I won't cry, but I will point out that it was not only a false dismissal of my claim, but also an unreasonable and untrue assumption on your part.

It's one of those "It's not what you said, it's how you said it" things. You used it as a dismissal of my point of view as someone who doesn't experience racism.

facepalm.

Okay. I'll use your words. Jews were appropriated by Nazis to build VW's, BMW engines, and Mercedes trucks. Granted, that's not what you probably think of when you think of Mercedes, but that's okay. I'll get to that.

I think that re-appropriation is as relevant to some words that got written to a melody…

That's a reasonable argument.

But my point is that it's a red herring. If it has to be explained that thoroughly, maybe the concern over it is misplaced and counterproductive? It's creating a new way for people to unintentionally be racist. Does that make the situation better, or worse?

You dismissed my point in a flash of "leave this to people who understand", and my reply was "maybe I understand better than you think I do". I feel like that was a reasonable response (though I did it in a sarcastic way).

The implication that I don't have a voice that should be valued was quite clear.

That happens all the time. And the truth is, everyone should have a voice. The "well, your voice shouldn't be valued because you don't experience racism" is a shut down. It's a way of ignoring the other point of view and still being quite…

It has a lot to do with it.

By buying a VW product, that's a direct endorsement of a company that used slave labor. I don't see how that's a more tenuous connection than a melody that at one point, someone made racist lyrics to that very few people remember.

You implied that by "majority" I meant "white people"! that's funny. No, I meant "majority of anybody". Like, after searching, it seems that it has become "appallingly racist" over the past few days on the internet, but that it still has to be explained to most people, because they associate the melody with a song…

You do realize that BMW, Mercedes, and VW used Jewish slave labor, right? Recently enough for people that were slaves to still be alive, right?

Huh. I guess antisemitism doesn't exist anymore.

Good to know that that's over. I mean, it means I can't take part in conversations about discrimination and race, but at least I'll never see Jew stereotypes again or not get a job because of my last name again. Hooray!

Actually, there is a different between something that's a problem based on context and perception (like the Sterling comments) and something that has to be explained to everyone why it's racist because the vast majority associate it with Ice Cream and not racism. Do you see how that's a Red Herring?

It's a non-issue.…

I do see your point. I just have a different perception about what's valuable as a topic about racism and what is a red herring.

Well, I'm not belittling racism... I'm making a side point about what racism is, and how it is related to perception and intent, to try to provoke thought, not to troll.

Still missing the point I'm trying to make.

There's a difference between "alertness" and "hypersensitivity".

If something is racist, overtly or not, I understand the reaction. I do. I've had my own experiences. The difference is that many things that used to be racist as fuck simply lose that meaning, or are not…

You completely missed my point.

I'm not cutting off discussion. I'm suggesting that racism is contextual and perception based. So, you had to be TOLD to think this when you hear the song. And what I'M saying is that it's not the melody that's racist. It's the context that you're now going to put it in, and not the…

Jesus Christ, you think that I don't realize that just because I don't perceive racism, it doesn't exist? You just mansplained Racism to me. Thanks.

I'm not just talking about me. I'm talking about the level of background fill necessary, and whether or not something that has roots that are primarily forgotten is still…

I initially read your user name as "manic pixie icecream girl".