I’m all about performance, but sometimes there is a lot of fun in driving something slow and sporty. While I have much faster (and safer) cars, my Honda Beat is a blast to drive.

I’m fairly confident the 370hp is a lie, considering the “420hp” S was like 5mph faster than the 460hp Corvette in the quarter mile.

We don’t even know what it looks like yet!!!!!

I agree completely. Look at Subaru. The Crosstrek outsells the Impreza wagon probably 10 to 1, yet the Crosstrek is literally just an Impreza wagon with 3-4" of lift and a $2000 markup.
So US people will pay $2000 for worse handling and lift that they will NEVER USE.

DO IT!

Here’s a Dodge Neon that has a good “motor trans” and needs fixed doesn’t say what needs fixed is one long perpetual run on sentence without punctuation

Pretty much. With winter tires on the front, I can out brake (important part) and out accelerate pretty much anyone wearing all-seasons.
And I can turn just as fast, with just a bit of drifty action if I go faster.
Hand brake turns are fun as well.

A Z competitor is what it looks like on paper, but there have been hints that the Supra will start above 50k....for the 4-cylinder version.
Oh yeah, did I forget to mention?? There is a 4-cylinder version with even less power!

Bingo.  It’s great.

Counterpoint: this is why having two winter tires is AWESOME!

Full disclosure - My winter setup on my Fiesta ST started as just junkyard focus wheels, and two tires were junk after the first year so as planned I swapped them to winter/snow tires, but 2 years later the back all seasons still have plenty of tread left.…

Automatic only doesn’t jive well with the a lot of the handling over power crowd.
This whole thing is just a mess.

While you might not be wrong, your ending points out why this is foolish thinking. If they don’t want this to compete with the RC-F that is fine, but it then needs to be a lot cheaper, especially if it isn’t as luxurious.
But if the new Supra is less luxurious, less powerful, yet the same entry price as the RC-F (and…

That’s the real problem. In the mid 90's the Supra had 20hp more than the Corvette, 45hp more than the Camaro, and like 100hp on the Mustang and M3.
Now it’s going to have ~100hp less than all of those cars. It really either needs to be priced in the mid $30k range, or get the M4 engine.

Yes, most of the figures I’ve seen state 335hp, but some sources have said 380hp.
Either way it’s well below the standard for the cars in that price range.
Toyota is FINALLY going to unveil the Supra at Detroit, only to be imediately upstaged by the C8 mid-engine Corvette.

Which would be fine if it wasn’t lacking ~100hp from those cars.

From what I’ve read the torque vectoring makes it easy, not the other way around. Which may give the NSX an advantage to a novice.
But Pobst has experience behind just about everything. He drives whatever he can get his hands on (including my mid-engined Honda).

I am well aware of this. Toyota was still involved in the engineering and design, and it does have a Toyota badge.
I’d say the GT86 is more Toyota than the Supra will be.

Well I’ve never seen an S13.  I suppose the S15 is better than nothing, but we never got those in the US, and since most of the movies take place here...

I agree.  Was this from a video game?

I’ll be honest, I don’t like the sound as much as a cross-plane V8 Chevy, but it still does sound good in a different way.