Dolby109
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Dolby109

Yes there was more. In the 90's we had most of the current lineup with the addition of the MR2, Supra, 3000GT, 240SX, AWD DSM’s, RX-7, and Fiero.
The 90's seems to be the heyday of Japan, and they have faded significantly since, and are finally maybe starting to make a resurgence.
In the 2000's era we had the

You are right and wrong. Businesses support whoever gives them the advantage (although that still tends to be slightly right leaning). The CEO’s and boards who run them are overwhelmingly conservative.

Honda should make a baby NSX with the same engine but no hybrid motors/batteries, and with a manual transmission, and then call it “NSX”.
(And then just can that overpriced hybrid POS they are making now).

I agree that the sports cars we have now are good and interesting, but there isn’t a whole lot of range of choices, particularly for RWD 2-door sports cars under $50k. There are the 3 offerings out of America (granted each is available in a huge variety of trims), 3 from Japan, and 1 from Korea (if they even make the

It’s not like it’s a bad car, it’s just the antithesis to an enthusiast vehicle, and this usually driven by people with the opposite philosophies on speed as enthusiasts. So the car is fine, the drivers are annoying.

Yeah, it sounds like a transmission for people who can’t drive manual, but want to pretend they can.

This minus the hybrid, plus a third pedal would be a good car.

An NSX? No, but for $150-200k it should be fantastic, and based on the reviews it’s less fantastic that pretty much all of it’s competition (both subjectively and with objective lap times), even the competition that costs much less.

Until dealerships stop trying to make the most profit, why should I stop trying to save the most money?
There are two sides to this coin.

Is this the new one? It looks 20 years old inside and out. Does that mean the old Century looked 40 years old?

I DD a Fiesta ST, so I know FWD can be good.
And I guess the 320 and 228 count as well, although they are more focused on being practical than being sporty. The Challenger as well although I never considered it sporty.

But if you are talking strictly sports cars, and not compromises like the shared platform cars (ST’s,

Uhh compared to the 570S, 911 Turbo, AMG GT R, which are the cars it’s supposed to compete with but has a less nice interior, less soul, less sound, and less speed.
And most of all the Corvette Grand Sport/Z06, and Camaro ZL1 which meet the above requirements aside from the interior.

I suppose no-haggle dealerships are fine for people who are willing to pay an extra $1000 in exchange for not wasting an hour or two researching and haggling.
Honestly my experience with no haggle dealers hasn’t been great. In Dec 2008 we were looking for a new sedan, and drove pretty much all of the midsize

It doesn’t really matter what tech is under the hood, it matters what it produces in both engagement and performance.
The interior is not that of a $150k+ exotic car, and at that point you might as well have a faster and more visceral Z06 for ~$60+k less.

$15k with a warranty might be hard, but I bet you could buy a $14k car and extend the factory warranty or some such for an extra $1000-1500. We recently bought an used and heavily discounted AWD Ecoboost Flex for my wife and we paid something like $2000 for a 7 year (from now), unlimited mileage warranty. (I know how

Fantastic? There’s the Miata/124, BRZ/GT86, V6 Camaro, Ecoboost Mustang, 370Z, WRX, FoST, FiST, GTI, and arguably the Type R.
So 10 cars, only 5 of them being RWD sports cars, only one of them being a convertible. Not nearly as much selection as the over $150k market has.

Yes, and the M2's base price is $52,500. Without some horredously massive markups, the Type R isn’t getting close to that.

I honestly don’t get why there is more variety in the $150-200k market than there is in the $25-35k market for the other 99% of us.

But to you’re point. It is shoved in that market, and doesn’t offer the performance, character, or interior quality that most of the others do. It really belongs in the $80-120k market.

Ugh...the I8 is such a useless car IMO. Apart from it’s looks anyway.

Not for $34k you can’t. (since Kinja doesn’t seem to allow editing of posts that have been replied to, I replied that I meant the MSRP for the Type R, which is what Honda intended to sell it for).
But with the markup, I agree there are several cars that are vastly superior.