Maybe we as a society should stop upholding marriage as the absolute thing you must do or you are worthless slime. People would probably not marry out of desperation to be coupled with someone, ANYONE, if that were the case.

I really want to understand what good she has done in her life. I am happy for her to transition. But I don’t understand why that in itself is a good. I believe the public nature of her tranisition was unavoidable give her previous fame seeking activities. I don’t understand why athletic talent is a good. Certainly…

If I didn't like him before, do I have to like her now?

BUT WHERE IS ROB??

I’m always irritated by the uncritical admiration of Caitlyn Jenner, too, and I don’t think that feeling is particularly Benghazi-ish. Even if I could set aside the car crash thing (and that’s a *huge* thing to ignore), I think she’s a tremendously shitty parent, who has clung to her fading fame by exploiting her…

Wait a minute. Doesn’t “coming out” imply openly admitting you are gay? Caitlyn is gay now too? And please, don’t even try to pretend this isn’t all about appearance. She didn’t do anything BUT change her appearance, she didn’t perform some selfless act of heroism. It’s all about her and nothing else. Don’t try the…

I dislike Caitlyn not just because of her repeated negligence when driving, but also for the fact that she pretty much abandoned her first set of kids from her ex yet was a present parent for Kris’s kids. I hate when parents do that, neglect one family while being there for the next one. It’s so fucked up. She also…

Who are you to decide what is or isn’t the appropriate venue to discuss this?

And now YOU sound like the equivalent of “Hey guys, Zimmerman was acquitted, stop talking bad about him” with your obsession over what the law determines.

It’s easy to be “courageous” when you’re wildly wealthy, not so much when you have to do it while living a normal life among regular people.

Yeah, instead the whole focus is on how fabulous she looks. It’s shallow beyond all belief.

Really? So we should just ignore the fatal accident she caused and focus on her appearance instead? We’re supposed to just accept trans people as being like everyone else (which I agree with, BTW) but give them a pass when they behave recklessly and carelessly because they look so fabulous?

Yes. I see the hypocrisy in a lot of places. Like the glowing articles celebrating the vanity fair cover of Caitlyn (65) in a corset. Meanwhile Madonna (56) is routinely mocked (including on jezebel) for being too old to wear the revealing costumes she chooses.

She’s received a metric fuck ton of leeway as a woman that is never afforded to cis women, especially those in her family. I dislike it for the hypocrisy it is. I don’t blame her, though.

Donna’s response to Kim Howe’s death is essentially: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

No. Clearly it is the time to talk about it, because people routinely bring it up in the comment sections of articles, as you yourself pointed out.

That’s exactly it. Causing the death of a person in recent months is a pretty momentous life event, and the media have avoided it like the plague in favor of the uplifting story. So I’m only saying the uplifting story is harder to enjoy if you think of the very recent death caused by her.

“Then she concluded her deeply affecting speech by remaining a supporter of the Republican Party, who are dedicated to making the lives of LGBT people who don’t happen to be rich, powerful, high profile celebrities a living hell.”

Fuck her.

It’s in the comment section of every damn article because the media gave caitlyn a huge pass on this, and people called it out. All throughout the “big reveal” thousands of words were spilled in the media over the vanity fair shoot and hardly any of those glowing articles even mentioned the car accident, that killed…

Caitlyn is an amazing motivational speaker ...