The problem is that Tesla pulls real time data from the cars, they’re always talking with home base. They have to authenticate to use the Supercharger network. It’s one of those things where you’d have to completely support yourself from that point forward.

I don’t see that happening until these cars have been on the…

I’d be ok with a paper skills test. Actual road testing would be another major expense to drivers. I absolutely agree with your sentiment I just don’t see it being practical with current economic conditions.

Do other countries require a periodic road test? That’d be an interesting case to study.

Without access to transportation the economy implodes.

You said you want either full autonomous or nothing at all. I think that’s quite an impractical way to go about it.

Poor people will drive old, non autonomous cars, for the next 20 years

The Tesla designation talks about kWh, total energy in the pack.

The car still uses the whole battery, it simply limits the max total output from the battery. That means you’ll still have the longevity increase from discharging the pack less compared to an actual 60 kWh pack..

It is an extremely lenient system, however if you have a major accident driver retraining is a very common requirement.

So you’ll be ok with a big fat tax to pay for poor people to guy autonomous cars?

Sir, I believe this is America.

~143 hp per liter NA with an engine that large? I have my serious doubts.

Fun cars don’t need to be good cars.

It’s not your DD, you’re driving 20k miles a year in it. It’s a time machine, that’s why people like it.

You’d still be pulling the motor with old 2.7T. It’s not really a big deal. A pain in the ass, but not a technical challenge.

Do you have some information on that? That’s an interesting conclusion if correct.

I meant that more as a general bland commuter car/crossover not Camry specifically.

Exciting vehicles don’t sell cars, Camry equivalents do.

They need market share so they can fund EV projects and maybe one super car every 10 years.

People keep forgetting that when Elon started Tesla his goal was to bring electric cars to the masses, to push the industry in the right direction. I’m not saying he is that altruistic, but I don’t think he’s in it for the money.

Driving it daily in a sales gig?

Our sales guys put 30k easily on their company cars and they’re only out of the office 1/2 the time.

170k in 3 years is 165 miles a day, that’s a lot but not completely absurd.

I want alerts for police, debris in the road and stopped traffic in the road (not on the shoulder) I don’t see that level of customization.

You’re allowed to clean your workshop you know?

Driver load is too high. It shouts at you about a pot hole 12 miles away!

It works well but the level of user interaction and alarms constantly going off from normal things you see in rush hour traffic are absurd. Then a dialogue box pops up to confirm car on the shoulder and you suddenly can’t see your navigation.

The…

So you just rather not get the driving experience at all because you’re too poor (like most of us) to afford it?

That’s absurd logic.

Cars are about driving. Period. If you’re into it being 1 of 500 you should get into collector artwork.