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True, but then wouldn’t they want to steer people to the Odyssey instead of giving the Pacifica equal footing?

They technically are very biased, as they primarily comprise of insurance companies (both for profit,mutual (policyholder owned), and reinsurance). The goals of the insurance companies is to reduce their losses. Incidentally, it’s very closely aligned with the well being of their policy holders. Among their

Oh, absolutely. If anyone is perceived as not giving a dog a belly rub when he’s been a good boy (yes, he has!), they get a call from Sarah McLachlan directly. Leave a kid in a hot car to die? Eh, they were probably a bad parent anyway.

Now that you mention it, for kids in booster seats the footwell intrusion thing is no longer an issue.

My kids have had plenty of movements, many of them inside the same minivan.

We need a new movement for kids. That's not fucking funny.

....are you suggesting that at least one of your kids would be safer if you put them in the front seat then? 

Anyone who has clipped a highway barrier, or a mail box, or a tree, or a light pole, or a parked car, or a moving car. Id be willing to bet it happens more often than a full head on collision of two vehicles. At least one driver is going to try to avoid. Or if they are drifting over the lane its unlikely they will

Yeah stuff like this makes me mad as hell. But on the flip side... When they introduced the small overlap test, it was mid cycle for a lot of models. Certain vehicles did well in it despite not being designed for it suggesting that those companies spend resources designing a safe car and not just a safe in testing

The structural rating is based on how much deformation there is (straight how many cm did it change), while the overall rating is also based on injury criteria.  In this case, the Pacifica deformed in structure, but no strikes against the dummy.

The discrepancy between passenger and driver side impact results really makes me mad. You know they skimped on structure on the passenger side because the extra $8 in metal and welds it saves per vehicle makes the quarterly bonus checks bigger, and they figured fuck anyone driving the cars, because that extra $150 on

My real issue with these ever more stringent safety tests is that at some point you’re in the zone of diminishing returns. I think we are already in that zone personally. You can add a lot more cost, complexity, and weight to a vehicle with very little real-world increase in safety at this point.

Good thing the front passenger in my minivan is usually in the backseat beating the children. MUCH safer.

They’re are really hyping up this new architecture

Has anyone ever done a crash test where the front passenger has their feet on the dash?  Showing that to my wife/kids *may* scare them straight.

I think they decided to wait for the TNGA architecture to address this.

Since the people who usually buy minivans are the ones with kids THAT HAVE COMPLETELY GIVEN UP ON LIFE AND HAPPINESS, it’s good to pay extra attention to which ones are the safest.

The World: “CARS AREN’T SAFE ENOUGH”

Newest car does best on test, oldest car does worst. More news at 11.