You loose? No, you lose (loser)!

Oh god, this hits home so hard. My kids will watch this show until their eyeballs bleed. The opening music makes me want to puke.

It will defentiely be in the low to mid 5-second range. The Edge Sport with the same drivetrain (AWD, 2.7TT) can do 60 in 5.6 seconds (par C&D). The Fusion has 10 more HP (325 vs 315) and should weigh about 500lbs less.

The standards are spelled out in FMVSS 108.

FMVSS 108 sets standards for all things relating to exterior automotive lighting. Brightness, lamp location, directivity, patterns, etc for forward, side, and rear lighting are all spelled out in agonizing goverment/engineering detail. Since it’s a federal law anyone selling a new car in the US is required to follow…

Correct, the current S80 rides on the P3. There are still Ford vehicles using the P2>D2>D3; however the new Continental and Chinese market Taurus (and others) use the CD4.

Different chassis, it’s on Fords CD4 platform. The S80 is on the P2/D2/D3 chassis.

It’s on Ford’s CD4 platform. Same as the current Fusion, but longer and wider. The new Chinese market Taurus rides on the same platform, but not the the current US Taurus that still rides on the D3 chassis, which was derived from the D2, which was derived from Volvo’s P2 chassis.

Littering and, littering and...

Agreed. My’ 11 EB gets about 3MPG better than my ‘05 5.4 and makes a load more power. It also drives and rides way better.

It faster than a lot of “performance” cars today; looking at you BRZ...

You’ve just explained why Lincoln won’t go the sporty RWD route. Cadillac already did it and they’re still way behind the Germans in sales volume. Why should FoMoCo go chasing sales from established players (BMW & MB) when Cadillac is already doing that exact same thing and having marginal success?

Good luck finding a RWD model in a cold climate state.

I’m not going to defend the Navi in any way (it’s desperately outclassed and in need of a major overhaul), but calling it “remarkably slow” is downright incorrect. Depending on who you ask it’ll do 0-60 in about 6.2 seconds. I don’t know what kind of numbers you consider fast, but 6.2seconds to 60 isn’t slow.

Charger

The economy can have a big impact on this sort of stuff. When things go bad and money gets tight extra cars, boats, motorcycles, airplanes, and other non-essential items hit the auction block. Supply goes up and demand goes down thus a decrease in price.

1) Fuel economy wont be rated by the EPA so we’ll have to wait for a third part to do side-by-side tests; it probably will get better mileage towing than a gas V8.

And I can get a bare bones F-150 XL with all the same hardware for $42,290, $1k less than the Nissan “S”.

Good point. You can get the HD package on a Lariat, bot not the KR or Platinum. Ford also limits the option packages once you add the HD package on, so you’re limited to a “stripper” Lariat with max tow/payload.

Considering you can get a decently equipped 4wD F150 that has 2650lbs of payload and 11,500lbs towing capacity for basically the same price* what’s the advantage of the Nissan? Based on Andrew’s limited driving it doesn’t look the MPG gain will be that great (good, but not great).