He says Mia planted them. That he saw her plant them. That she planted them in him. He is a family therapist. If mia really planted these memories, she’s a bigger monster than Woody, who to be clear, I don’t defend. He is awful. I am defending facts and against the desire to bend them to justify emotional reactions.

He brother said Mia abused them and planted false memories. Does that matter to you? Or do you just want to think he’s guilty and will ignore anything that points away from that? I have NO IDEA if he did it. Both sides of this seem awful.

I am not defending him. I called him skeevy and creepy and said I don’t condone what I know he did. I said that he has never been accused of sexual harassment by an actress. He has not. You can’t conceive of a person being agnostic. You assume I must be taking a side. I am taking the side of truth. I am saying that…

It’s also in bright daylight.

I said what I said with full knowledge I would get shit for it. If I thought all the people here would have a reasoned response I wouldn’t have felt the need to say it in the first place.

I am saying that I am NOT taking sides. I have no idea who’s lying. And neither do you. People perceive reality different, they remember events different, they build up explanations and rationalizations and they no longer can tell that they are remembering how they felt and not what they saw. I am saying that I am…

So every person accused of a crime, even by people with obvious conflicts of interest, should be fired just in case they are guilty. That’s a fun world you want to create.

You are free to think that he and their oldest son are lying and that Mia is telling the truth. You are NOT free to expect me too or demand he be treated by society like he is guilty. You have every right to think he is guilty and no right to demand I do. However you don’t get to demand his career is ended becuse you…

“By presuming that one party is innocent, you’re presuming that the other party is guilty.”

I am saying that your assumption of guilt for things he has been accused of colors your opinion. I think he’s been generally skeevy in a lot of ways. But there’s no evidence of crimes.

So you think we should presume guilt?

Field of Screams.

First, we presume everyone’s innocence, in the absence of proof. That’s not about him. Second: https://people.com/movies/woody-allens-adopted-son-claims-mia-farrow-brainwashed-him-and-was-physically-abusive-report/ I hate having to sound like I am defending HIM. I am defending something more than just HIM.

I am not saying what he did was right, but neither is conflating it with rape. By today’s standards what he did was wrong, but by 1979 standards it was not. Weinstein was always wrong. I said it’s all icky and skeevy. I just responded to the idea that he was a serial sexual harasser who destroyed lives when he didn’t…

I would say this... In 1979 no one said his romance with a 17 model, on film, was wrong. Today we see it differently. NO ONE ever thought what Weinstein did was ok, he just had too much power. He was enabled by greed and cowardice. Woody Allen was enabled by everyone. As for the molestation charges, there is a lot of…

I was channeling my inner Schrute.

THAT is the heavily disputed part. The oldest brother says they were made to lie about it by Mia. He blames her for planting false memories.

Not exactly Weinstein level antics there. Manhattan USED to be one of my favorite films, but it’s now unwatchable to me becuse it’s clearly inappropriate. That said, she doesn’t claim he did anything but making a pass, which is awful, but not rape. Not casting couch stuff. Just icky and wrong to us today. It was…

She accused him of this as a wife, not an actress working for him. And I am not defending his behavior.

He hasn’t ever been accused of anything by women he’s worked with. That is a simple fact. People can believe other things they have heard about him, things are are heavily disputed, but no actress has ever accused him of anything improper. What he was accused of is separate from the METOO movement.