Clearly- “a fool and his money are soon parted” as the saying goes, and big box stores make a lot of money. But I don’t think it’s unreasonable to leave a job that I found unethical, especially if the reality of the job (lying to and manipulating people for profit) isn’t at all what I was looking for (entry level…

I hear you. I left that job because I wanted to get into IT, not sales, and definitely not sleazy sales. Manipulating people for profit can be a lucrative career, but I feel like you have to be a certain kind of sociopath to really excel at it.

That’s a bummer. Unfortunately, well-informed non-repeat customers aren’t very profitable, so a lot of companies focus on up-selling above all else.

I’ve seen a similar mentality in lots of places- in one of my first “real” IT jobs at a support desk, we had a ton of tickets every day for the same few issues. I…

I used to do the same at Micro Center when I lived near one, mostly because they have way more components than BB ever did. Can’t beat MC’s loss-leader CPU prices though.

The OS, AV, and Office suite was around $200-250 before tax, depending on the version the customer could be convinced to purchase. Most of the time the customer already had a valid license for the OS and MS products and just needed them reinstalled, not repurchased, but we were instructed not to tell them that if they…

Back in college I worked at Best Buy’s geek squad for a little under a month. I know, not really an IT job, and I guess they knew that too- we (group of new hires) were informed by the sales manager that our true purpose was to upsell accessories and peripherals, or to tack on so many unnecessary products and services…

Well, I guess if you want people to associate their gambling addiction with your brand, you’d better start them off early.

For Bungie fans without an Xbox, think Telesto.

Huh. I really need to go find one of these things and take a look. According to the specs the seat height on the Grom is around 0.5” taller than the old Ninja.

Full coverage on my 650R is $32/mo. I don’t remember offhand what the coverage for my 250 was (that was almost 10 years ago) but I’m fairly certain it was less.

I just checked the NY CL, and you’re right. Most of those bikes are less than a year old, which makes me think new riders are getting upcharged at the dealer and not keeping their bikes very long. I wonder how many people buy a used Grom off CL for that much more than MSRP... and why?

Oof, sounds rough. There’s nothing wrong with auto, like they say- it’s not what you ride, but that you ride.

The Grom would have to be pretty close to free insurance to be less than what I paid for my old 250, and I suspect you’d have to keep it for a while to make up the difference in purchase prices.

It could, but I think a 250 is much closer to a Grom than it is to an SV650 or even a 650R, and it’s something else that a beginner rider might consider. I don’t think anyone is cross-shopping a Grom and a Magna*.

*with the exception of the people who said they want the Grom purely for the hoonage factor. ;)

And nearly twice the price, before depreciation. But I can see the appeal of a ride that no one else has used.

I wasn’t being mean to the Grom, I just wanted to get to know him better. :/

‘88-’07 250’s are so common you can find one in good shape under $2k with very little effort. And if you break it you can buy a whole second bike without spending much more than you would on a financed Grom. But I’m sure the warranty is a big plus for folks who don’t want to deal with any issues.

I find it funny how quickly people jump to that response. I think most people misinterpreted my post as suggesting that the Ninja was better- I wasn’t, I was asking because I don’t know much about the Grom and wanted to be better informed. At the very least I’ve learned that it has strong cult following.

That’s why I was asking, I haven’t been on one yet. Makes sense in that light.

Now that’s a reason I can understand.