“While you might be thinking no American would be dumb enough to attempt something like this”

Most of us aren’t involved in setting fuel economy standards. Seeing 25 mpg on a monroney allows for very simple and quick calculations for consumers making purchases.

This is the important thing here.

Why does consumer joes misunderstanding of “twice as much” matter? That’s seems totally irrelevant. The car will get 30mpgs as advertised. The worst outcome in your scenario is that when he brags to his friends about “twice as much” one of them might say, “Yo, bud you’re off by .3 gallons.” Chances are no one will…

You are far less cynical than I am. The electorate typically eats what they’ve been fed and the regulatory bodies are ultimately controlled by the politicians who are ultimately controlled by whoever fills their campaign war chests.

The data contained in one provides the other.

I am not sure that MPG vs GPHM falls under manipulation. To me it’s two ways of measuring the same thing and since most consumers aren’t making fleet decisions, I don’t see it as concerning. The typical consumer is replacing one car, not trying to determine the relative impact of mileage on multiple cars. I would…

How important is it that consumers understand this anyway? How often is one confronted with “Man, I need to save some gas, should I replace my F3000 or my Camry?”

Sometimes this site makes me want to be mean.

Tanks come in many different sizes so that number would do nothing but inspire manufacturers to make tanks bigger.

I don’t do whatabouts. Whatever the board and shareholders did does not change Musks behavior or trustworthiness. Mentioning the shareholder revolt is not a counterpoint, it is a pointless redirection designed to dodge the actual argument.

I am going to hypothesize that once you reach moderate speeds the aero penalty eclipses any modest power gains. This will get worse as speeds increase making the mod progressively dumber.

Exactly...Which is why I use it to start my negotiation.  But I never ever ever go up from the S.

At one point this was probably true. But now? Musk seems to be doing far more harm to the brand than good. He has alienated his primary customer base and hurt the brand far more than helped it. His constant overpromising and underperforming is no longer excused. And the Truck? In a truck obsessed US market it…

Why would he engage 4wd? His lift kit, bead locks, pristine recovery boards, unscratched handyman jack, winch and light rack insure he can handle whatever the mall parking lot throws at him without ever having to figure out those gosh darned finicky switches.

I don’t understand paying over MSRP for anything ever. I will get the price I want or I will buy something else, or maybe nothing at all. I always look at opportunity cost. I can make my money earn more money if I keep it. I can use it for my family if I still have it. If I give it away, then somebody other than…

You can’t convince me that paying extra for something because “now” vs six months from now is a choice a wise person makes. One of the primary traits of people who are successful in investing and business is a willingness to delay gratification.   The reason I can write a check for a marked up LandCruiser without…

I wasn’t trying to argue your point. I totally agree. Everyone I knew at the time thought I was insane to take my truck with an off road package off-roading. I was just sharing an anecdote.

The last time I bought a new 4x4 I drove straight from the lot to a nearby trail and scratched it.  I did it on purpose but I still almost barfed.  Once I got over that I was able to completely enjoy the truck and still do.

Greed is not the problem.