If you consider the state and fed tax credits on the Rivian, the prices between the all electric rock crawling wonder truck and the GMC AT4X will be close. There’s no way in hell I am paying Rivian money for a mid size 4 cylinder pickup even if it is loaded with cool toys.

You confuse me.

Auburn Hills?

“We aren’t going to “do” anything, that’s not what I said. Lowering inflation will result in higher unemployment.

I’m from the Midwest. I’m never going back. I love cars as much as the next guy but give me mountains and oceans and I’ll more often use my body to make speed. I’ve seen enough speed shop middle aged heart attacks for this lifetime. Plus I hate driving without curves. I’d rather be hitting apexes on a mountain…

I’d kill to get a house for 250k, but then I’d kill to not have to live in the Midwest.

Where do you live that you can get a house and a Ferrari for $500k?

The GS is the closest thing we got to the Toyota Crown in the US (same platform).

José my man...This was not the place to admit limited knowledge of basic vehicle functions (it’s not just BMW’s and Acuras). Many readers here are automotive experts, not many want to read thoughts by people who know way less then themselves.

“Just like airline baggage fees. When they were first announced everyone was LIVID. And now we just pay them.”

So...They put expensive seat heaters in MY car but I can’t use them?

I used to be really good at buying cars. I’d be careful to avoid discussing financing and work my way toward invoice or lower and would walk away if the deal wasn’t exactly what I wanted. I was obsessed with beating the average out the door price while getting the best possible financing (usually from my credit…

I hate it without feeling weird.

Below ground pools have much cooler water than dark metal tanks above ground.

I am sure Elon has an amazing camera over this “pool” so he can scout for wives who are ripe for expanding the population with his superior seed.

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I think it depends on how you define “model”

It’s been a long time since Mustangs and Camaros “raked in the bucks.”

I hate purists so much and I am one.

I think your assessment of the origin of crappy Hyundai dealerships is spot on.