where, in this account, did you get rape? except maybe this: “I was a hot, surfer, California boy type” which raped my ears/eyes

He was not accused of rape. He was accused of making an unwanted advance, and then backed right off without doing anything.

Far left mugshot - there’s the ringleader. I’d bet real money he’s raped a few girls and bullied some awkward kids. He has the eyes of a serial killer.

It only takes one incident for someone to go from not being a sexual predator to being a sexual predator and we have an account of one such incident occurring.

That doesn’t mean it didn’t happen to them, or that they are lying, or anything like that. It just means that it’s virtually impossible to consistently recall every single detail. The basic core of his story really has not changed, certainly across any of the probably dozens of times I’ve read it.

Unfortunately, they’ll probably get off with nothing - not even probation. First offenses and white kids getting second chances blah blah blah. And they’ve likely already been accepted into college if they were going.

Looking at the mug shots, factoring the racist assholery, I’m thinking lacrosse team.

What’s in the Oregon Online article is:

See but as noted in the Observer piece. In fact that’s sort of why the piece brought it up. Brunton’s accounts and shifts aren’t the sort of variable that goes with memory being faulty. They don’t read like the sort slight variance in detail over time you see with other victims accounts. And all his highly varied…

Yes. Even with a base assumption of support for accusers it doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be critical or not seek confirmation, additional information. Otherwise how do we distinguish between very, very rare false accusations. Non-abusive uncomfortable situations. And real accusations. How do we distinguish isolated…

Well he can shout all he wants about how he hasn’t changed his story. Even before this observer piece there were several conflicting accounts directly from Brunton. So there’s a pre-existing record of him changing his story.

And he’s on record in a reliable news publication admitting the 2nd meeting was a lie. And…

It seems now that you’re projecting.

How the hell is “the cure for that....” not a prescription? Words do indeed have meaning, but it seems like you’re way to eager to dismiss the meanings of Jordan’s own words.

I did listen to him firsthand. And I listened to his non-committal clarification of what he said firsthand. And I still have not seen any evidence to suggest that he did not mean what he said.

“The cure for that is enforced monogamy. That’s actually why monogamy emerges.” -Jordan Peterson.

He literally suggested a solution. It was quoted in the article you’re commenting on. Did you even read it?

Thanks for bringing this up! I really enjoy evolutionary biology which is actually based on science. Evolutionary psychology is a whole other discipline that uses lazy methods to make sweeping generalizations that are often used to “justify” sexism and racism. Many of those studies can easily be debunked.

Because evolutionary psychology is bullshit. it’s completely untestable. It’s a bunch of “just-so” stories made up to support whatever personal axe someone has to grind.

Because primatology doesn’t back up the idea that the strongest, most aggressive, and violent males have the most reproductive success. And for that matter neither does anthropological studies on current hunter-gatherer societies. Evolutionary psychology is a scorned field because of people doing what you’re doing…

There is no time in history when people with the trifecta of poverty, conventional unattractiveness, and low social skills were pulling in partners.

They’re so stupid they haven’t even thought through what a belief in evolutionary psychology likely means to them. Much of it is based on the idea that these types of guys were completely cut out of the gene pool and certainly from monogamous relationships. Low status/poor, unattractive, socially inept men were not…

Any time someone uses evolutionary psychology as the crux of their argument you know they are full of bullshit. This guy is an imbecile.