Because they are a tech company that is full of overconfident bros that thing experts are lame and the other companies are actual car companies test their products and have decades of experience and expertise????

I think all the olds have dropped dead as I do not hear the laments of them saying old big steel cars are safer than new ones. I am glad there are crash tests because cars are safer for it. 

tired and it still was not all that. By then we just either waited until our parents went out or went back to the dorms. 

Were they to cool to wonder why other cars have paint?

Jebus if these rust faster than Jeeps, WOW!

Yea another victim of our current anti-expertise age. I would not want a truck built by people who just think they are good at everything. 

That is a good list. I hope you find what you want and enjoy the hell out of it. I love doing the desert thing in my jeep but there is no luxury.

Me looking between the two started as a joke as my kid is apartment hunting and seeing studios for $1100+ month and I for a joke priced out a cargo van and it ended up about the same/month. It was darkly funny.

The back seats were too small for conceptions to happen. As a teenager in the 1980s my 60s car had proper sized back seat. My ex’s 84 escort was not ok.

I was a poor teenager in the 1980s. Yes that list is fine and good. As you also note there was some utter garbage in the 1980s, like the regular escorts and crap like citations. I sat stranded on the side of the road i or had to work on too many 1980s garbage cars.

I just did the build and price on a AWD mid height ford transit cargo with rear heat and air and it was not actually that expensive if you want to convert the back yourself. Like I think it was under $65K??? https://shop.ford.com/configure/transitcommercial/config/summary/Config[%7CFord%7CTransit%20Commercial%7C2024%7C…

At least the bag of rotting fish fit in the overhead compartment unlike that damn guitar I see some bro board with every single time I fly delta. 

Especially if it breaks down and you loose your job because you cannot get to work. Reliable transportation can be the difference between making it and homelessness. 

Beat that dead horse until it makes money. 

NOT either because the rent on the apartment will go up and the person renting the apartment is not the owner. SO NEITHER but the van will eventually be paid off. 

Well said, unfortunately there will be commenters on here that think money Übber alles, and overconfidently think they will always but the impossibly reliable used car that will never break down or need fixing and maintaining and forget that not every one has a heated shop and the skills to fix everything that could…

a car loan for a new ford transit decked out for van life conversion and a studio apartment are the same price where I live. 

And the ammosexuals will only comment on magazine vs clip and never the rest. 

Glad this guy is not a school teacher, and really glad he is not a school teacher in one of those states that let teachers carry in the classroom.  

if lucky and not in a rust belt community.