Oh, sorry, I forgot peoples issues with water. I trained my self to drink warm water from working in greenhouses, orchards and camping. 

They exist: https://www.delicausa.com/

I both want to know and do not want to know how they lifted it as my wife would never let me lift her pacifica after i lifted her grand cherokee about 20 years ago. 

Wow desperation if they are taking what would have been a disney channel tv series from a movie and making it a movie. they really want that sweet theater money. 

I bring an empty water bottle through security and fill it once I find my gate. This saves like $5-10 every time I fly. 

Funny thing is that over time suvs and crossovers have become so car like, so small hatchback like that you cannot do suv things with them anymore. 

We had a 2 hour rule for the portable dvd player for our now 23 year old. No videos in the car unless they were going to be stuck back there for over 2 hours. 

The giant pick up truck crowd is in there someplace. It does affect us all.

No harm but, We all know that Jalopnik comment sections are a Tsunami of pedantry.

About a block from my college dorm a train hit a dump truck and pushed it for a long long way. It did suck trying to sleep in a dorm with a railroad track 100 ft behind the building.

We got rid of out full sized dog van and my wife’s daily driver and got a minivan and it fantastic. We can get 3 large dogs in the 42x42 dog crate she has behind the second row. That second row is folded down in the floor and the open space works for stuff and leashing the dogs etc. 

The entire vacuum and electronic control systems for carburetored cars from the early 1970s until the widespread adoption of fuel injection?  

I was one of the pro minivan commenters yestersay. I think a lot of this boils down to, do not let others define you and your self image and self worth. If you do not want a minivan functionally fine. But do not let others perception of your keep you from getting a minivan if it would work. If your worry that you need…

There are 3 kia rios brand new on the lot near me that all are under $18K, I would rather do that than a 20 year old ford that sat around. 

Anyone suggest a few year old Suburban yet? Three rows loads of comfort and power. 

Yep patent law is a hell of a drug. 

The hybrid i think is not awd. We have a 2020 AWD Pacifica and it has been fantastic my wifes best friend had a 2020 awd Pacifica that was totaled and she got a 2024 AWD and likes it. My wife has 80K on it so far.  I love the 3.6L and it is the same as they put in Wranglers so it is a stout motor. 

This, the third row (in anything smaller than a suburban) uses up most of the cargo space. also I would rater hit myself in the head with a bat than try to install a car seat in the third row of an SUV. 

My wife has one and she has a 42 wide by 42 long dog crate in the back and we can still pull up the middle seats if we need to haul humans back there. 

June 2020.