Anyone suggest a few year old Suburban yet? Three rows loads of comfort and power. 

Yep patent law is a hell of a drug. 

The hybrid i think is not awd. We have a 2020 AWD Pacifica and it has been fantastic my wifes best friend had a 2020 awd Pacifica that was totaled and she got a 2024 AWD and likes it. My wife has 80K on it so far.  I love the 3.6L and it is the same as they put in Wranglers so it is a stout motor. 

This, the third row (in anything smaller than a suburban) uses up most of the cargo space. also I would rater hit myself in the head with a bat than try to install a car seat in the third row of an SUV. 

My wife has one and she has a 42 wide by 42 long dog crate in the back and we can still pull up the middle seats if we need to haul humans back there. 

June 2020. 

In support of the minivan suggestion above:

Probably the same bean counters that never allowed AWD on their “SUV” the Soul. 

I still think that the way we use our minivan that the stow and go seating and AWD is really the selling point for the Pacifica. 

I own a pair and they are exclusively for walking out of the tent in the middle of the night to water a bush and back into the tent. This is a good use of crocs. Daily ware in public, not so much. 

I liked it because it was anti-religion and more old school liberal. It sucked after covid you stopped at a good time. 

I just stopped watching his show this current season. After 4 years I just could not stand, every show, his rants about lockdowns, masks and vaccines, regardless of who is the person being interviewed. Covid broke him.

https://special.kia.com/en/main.do

Beautifully stated!

Let’s do it then. No fancy luxury stuff, no spaceship futuristic styling, basic cheap transportation, like the Model T, VW bug, VW Rabbit MK1, Escort, Fiat 500, Honda Civic CVCC, ETC. 

If you know you are nearly done doing something you do not work that hard at it. Like you are retiring in 2 weeks you do not exactly bust butt. They know this is nearly the end and are acting as such. I do enjoy their other projects. I could watch James’s travel show for years and years.

KIA Powerwagon???:

No crap, We all saw T2. 

Wow, Maher took time out of his rants against masks, lockdowns, & vaccines to mention something else!

Right, Look at streaming lately and one can legit question decisions being made.