“...ugred [sic] people who were near the explosion to ‘bag their clothing and shower.’”

3rd Gear: I’m not a Musk and Tesla hater or fan, but it you’ve got that much of an issue with the donor’s politics then maybe don’t take their donations. 

well most of europe was destroyed in WWII which let them upgrade while they rebuilt

There are way more engine swaps happening right now with carb’d engines than there are gliders being built. EFI engine swaps are still too expensive and complex for some people.....take a look at a Jegs or Summit catalog, still a huge section of carbs and supporting hardware.

Not disagreeing with your points, but keep in mind these exact same arguments will be used against us to get rid of ICE hobby cars....which will produce MORE than 55x CO2 than electrics. Same argument, but actually worse in comparison to actual emissions than this current case.

This is what happens when you centralize your heating and have to pump super heated steam through pipes. It’s an entire island sustained on 18th century technology.

It’s worth noting that Glider Trucks mostly use the Detroit 60 Series 12.7L engine which is from the 80s and isn’t some sort of ancient technology. Glider trucks also get significantly better MPG and produce less CO2 than modern trucks due to that; NOx is higher but considering the environmental manufacturing costs of…

Way to stereotype, bro.

It's literally the principal we founded a country on

Tightening the noose on the trucking industry causes everyone to lose. Forcing higher emissions kills fuel economy driving up operating costs higher on top of the more expensive an maintenance intensive technology. I have tested the waters of higher emissions with buying a new road tractor this year and it gets two…

Your computer is powered by coal. If you are actually concerned for the environment, go off-line.

Yeah, but it was set specifically to target Tesla... Because the mass market German EVs were below 60K, and most of the foreign offerings, including Tesla, were over 60K. What a coincidence!

I love the people that bitch about carbon footprints, and then mention they would like to have clean air for their “kids”! How can you be so concerned about the climate, but decide you are so important that you must plop out some offspring to triple your carbon footprint. So you only care about other people polluting,…

That I would have to explain this to car guys, on a car forum, seems a little strange.....

Careful, people might cut themselves on the edge of the bottom of your comment.

The later models of pre-emissions engines actually get better mileage, and don’t consume DEF which is additional cost. Service intervals are longer, it costs less to service, and probably most importantly, reliability in general is literally an order of magnitude better.

Here, try looking at it from this perspective: Here is a chart of the top EVs (by sales) in Germany during the period this legislation was devised. Notice how the Tesla Model S was the only high volume (top 10) EV in Germany that is affected by the legislation. Yes the i8 is also affected, but by comparison, the…

Fuck the CDU, you dirty teutonic bastards know what you did. Now you wonder why people are wary of the consolidation of EU power in the fatherland since the dissolution of Mer-kozy. Macron is twisting in the wind like a surrender flag, and the Germans are goosestepping over the market. Nothing good comes from deutschl…

Huh. It’s almost like they had protectionist trade policies before Trump made them popular. 

The rule didn’t exist until the Model S was sold in Germany. Also, the $60k limit was conveniently placed just below the Model S, but above the BMW i3, Smart electric, and VW and Opel electric cars. It’s in the German government’s best interest for people to buy German electric vehicles, not American ones.