Clown question.  Why would I spend 80K on a car whose  head/cam layout date back to 1930s Alfas?  See how stupid that sounds?

Kristen, the LS-1 as installed in the ‘98-02 Z/28 and Trans-Am/Formula (F-Bodies) was not de-tuned, so stop regurgitating GM marketing BS. Those of us who owned the 4th Gen F-Bodies were dynoing the exact same rear wheel HP/TQ numbers as the Vette guys - 280-290rwhp bone stock, sometimes more. Although the air box and…

Haha, nice one, no mullet but don’t forget the gold chains and fold-up Carrera aviator style sunglasses. Seriously though, I’ve liked the Z-car since the Z32 debuted in ‘89, always wanted a TT but couldn’t afford one back in the early ‘90s so I had to make do with it’s step child little brother - ‘93 Sentra SE-R. Had…

My response was purposely over the top, you didn’t catch that? Also, I always thought the midlife crisis mobile was the 2-seater wannabe Corvette with less power and worse handling rather than an understated 4 -door that can lap Streets of Willow Springs in 1:25. Huh. But, seriously go check lap times and you’ll see…

If you think usernames lend any insight into what I truly believe and whether I can be objective or not, well, take a look at 90% of the commenters pal. Bro, you obviously know less than you think. Everything you’re stating to enlighten me I already know but thanks anyway. But you obviously have no clue that every SS…

Cool story Shane. I don’t drink, I prefer twisties to straight lines and I was just calling you out on your comment about not feeling that much additional power in the butt-dyno. The magnride cars were a bit softer than the ‘14 but not soft. They’re actually like your former V-Sport honestly. And yes, the stick can…

When I said “said G8" I was referring to the commenter’s G8 that you made your hilarious car port and trailer park comments about. His is modded to 400HP and he’s upgraded the stock G8 brakes to the Brembos. You think your Datsun is so great on track? Freaking noisy VQ trash piece of shit couldn’t even get around VIR…

You’re mistaken. No folding rear seat? Really? That decision was made by Holden in Australia because they didn’t want a gaping hole to compromise chassis rigidity. Same reason it has an aluminum hood, decklid and control arms. And forged aluminum OEM wheels.  

They were around $40K new with the 20% GM discount in ‘16 and ‘17. Most ‘14'-15s went for low-mid $40s when new. MSRP was around $48K depending on the 2 options, sunroof and full size spare wheel/tire.

You are correct, lazy ass authors and Doug Demuro call it a flop when it was only ever a contractual obligation to Holden to sell them in quantities of about 3K per year.  Mission accomplished.

Most with that low of miles are in the $30s to be fair though. I checked as well.

They were $48-50K new and could be had in the lower $40s even before the 20% GM discount bonanzas in ‘16-17. I got my ‘14 CPO with 9K miles for $36.5K right after the ‘15s came out. I’m now at almost 80K miles and it books out at $25-28K depending on trade or private sale.

If you value handling and track prowess other than 1/4 mile the SS leaves the 392 twins for dead on a roadcourse. In fact, it’s as fast or faster around most tracks than the freaking Hellcat haha.

This isn’t totally accurate. If you find a ‘14 auto that is unmolested or at least with only very minor mods, a clean carfax in excellent condition without door dings, excessive rock chips, wheel curb rash etc. you will be paying more than $25K, that’s just the way it is. Most will be 27-30K and the lower mileage ones…

Wrong. The SS weighs 3930 lbs and handles and drives like it’s 3500 lbs, the FCA land yacht weighs 4400 lbs and handles and drives like it weighs 4800 lbs.  It really is that different of an experience from behind the wheel.  I drove them both extensively along with e90 M3s and C63s AMGs before I bought my SS.  If you…

The OEM ‘14-15 SS wheels are Forged Aluminum sourced from Alcoa. They are light, strong and polished aluminum, not chromed like some morons think. the ‘16-17 wheels are cast. Those suck relatively speaking.

The OEM ‘14-15 SS wheels are Forged Aluminum sourced from Alcoa. They are light, strong and polished aluminum, not chromed like some morons think. the ‘16-17 wheels are cast.  Those suck relatively speaking.

Said the owner of a shitbox Datsun that said Pontiac G8 GT would kill on track.

Oh brother, now go do the MT videos by Lieberman, Cammisa and Pobst on the SS and the SS reviews in R/T, C&D et. al. The steering is one of the SS’s best attributes aside from wheel control/shock tuning. Dude, the Vsport is an excellent chassis but some of the stuff you’re saying regarding the SS is just dumb.

Strange, I’ve owned my SS for 5 years and the chassis is set up to track or cruise and many of us do track ours. It actually weighs slightly less than your V-Sport and to be honest, the interior materials are just as good as yours. Also, the MyLink infotainment shames your Cue, not that I bought based on that fact.…