In the spirit of this dumb joke, they should have made a luxury Avenger to take market share from people who want posh Nissans. Create an Avenger-Infiniti War.

I think the infidelity story has already been covered enough, but this is great detailed reporting.

I assume all of these Grahams (no relation) are crackers?

Simply, it’s a challenge.

It appeals to the engineer-y/problem solve-y side of my brain. Here’s a vehicle that—if we’re honest—was destined for the junkyard. It had a bad frame, a cracked engine, a horrible suspension, a bad ignition system...the list goes on.

Understanding these problems, laying out a plan to solve…

You mean… keep us

It’s hard to escape.

I have this argument at home all the time! My wife says I'm old, I say I'm a classic. Either way, we both agree I'm bloated, and way overdue for a refresh.

Let’s imagine the reverse happening:

People have been pointing out this distinction for decades, but I don’t recall general agreement on the definition of classic ever being reached. Around the time I graduated from high school in 1963, I remember an article or column in a car magazine which stated authoritatively stated that only cars from the Brass Age…

The KKK took my country away

Now who’s the jackass with too much money?

You’re a loon, David....a loon.

I’m a Reds, Bengals and Blue Jackets fan. I was a toddler when the Reds won their last world series. I’m born to be disappointed with my sports teams.

BUT.

This is pretty fun to watch and I really hope they break through.

Coaches named John Cooper don’t exactly have a great track record dealing with Columbus-related pressure.

DD’d a first year TJ way back and loved every minute of it. YMMV, of course.

I have a TJ with a manual and all those things are true BUT I STILL JUDGE YOU UNWORTHY.

My Porsche allegiance is becoming difficult to justify. The (likely) $30,000 base price differential means I can purchase a Corvette, with enough money leftover for a low mileage, two year old Toyota Tundra double cab.