It’s likely that these pictures are inventory shots pre-hail damage. Probably why they look “not bad” here.

The correct pronunciation is “Over priced wrecks”

That’s a fine price for a Hellcat with speed-enhancing dimples.

Hailcat ??

It’s very normal and cool that multiple people are mad at you for telling them how to have literally thousands of more dollars in their pockets. I must have missed your disclaimer where you legally required everyone to follow all of your advice.

A better analogy for your eating out scenario is that 2 bars who sell the same beer . One costs $5 and the other $7. The customer who chooses to pay $5 for their beer is not doing it to harm the server at the restaurant who charges $7. Is is the restaurant who is harming the server by not being competitive.

I’m not “beating up” anyone. I have a job to do if you don’t like that job you don’t have to cooperate. No one forces anyone to do anything in this business.

This is a system the dealerships created. It’s not the customer’s fault you don’t make much money when they get the best deal. If you don’t want to sell them a car at a certain price you have the choice not to. Just like the customer has the choice to take a better offer elsewhere.

Yeah, most likely. If traffic is so bad that you’re barely getting out of stall with the torque converter, your gas mileage could be really awful without much recourse. If you’re able to get past 20mph average, though, I’d think you should still be able to eke out 24 or 25 mpg (which is still lower than the EPA…

I hear you man...but for those people who don’t like confrontation writing an email makes things much easier. All I’m saying is don’t settle if you don’t have to.

This is a good point, and I think the question is...how much more is less stress worth? $500? $1000?

I’ve accepted that “no haggle” may mean I pay more, but I look at it as buying myself less stress (as well as saving time). And that is money well spent. As more dealers shift to that model the differences will even out.

I’m basically running down the changes FitFreak members make that ding their gas mileage...the tires are a big and common one (people run 205/50-16 because it’s way more common and somewhat cheaper than 185/55-16, but there’s a fuel economy hit because of the higher rolling resistance).

I’ve read many Consumer Reports on small cars and the variance between EPA city estimates and CR’s city driving is almost always huge (10 mpg discrepancy is common), while the variance between EPA freeway and CR freeway is much smaller, and some CR tested vehicles actually beat their EPA mileage rating, sometimes by a…

I wonder what is the deadlier pairing, Carbon and Oxygen or...

Alfa? *wink wink nudge nudge reference to other article*

I’ve dated this girl before, and I can safely say that if that’s the case, she won’t make it to the engagement stage of our relationship lol

How about mine?

So pissed at my wife right now, knowing that I would never get a reaction to anything I like, like that.

Buys cars sight unseen.