@otakufish: Right, I'm the only one "just trying to win" in this.

@Kicken: We're all stating opinions here. If your opinion is supposed to be "fact" while mine is not, I challenge you to find "fact", too.

@Kicken: And aren't yours, too? You guys believe it won't be harmful to kids, you guys believe that my train of thinking would lead to an end of free speech. Those aren't exactly facts, either. I'm just as wrong as the rest of you are, because none of us can prove it.

@otakufish: To me, a troll is also someone who has nothing conducive to add except "Yeah, shut up! Fuck off!"

@Deaf Mute: But just because a person's sense of morals is applied in this situation instead of fact, that doesn't mean the fall of western civilization as we know it. We're not lemmings. I don't see us all systematically banning all free thought, with it having started at not giving these materials wide availability.

@venomritual: Good to know. I guess I'm pretty stupid to have come into Kotaku expecting people to actually think there can be a fair balance between free speech and not contributing to potential child abuse.

@Superbowl54: But see to you, objectivity means that I agree with all of you, that my answer can't possibly be objective...so to you, how could I defend it objectively, hm? It may not be as "black and white as I want it to be" but neither is it as gray as YOU want it to be. It's very simple: let pedophiles want what…

@otakufish: Actually, I didn't advocate a change in the law, I opened this thread expressing disbelief that people seem to think that we're never products of our environment and that having widely available lolicon will have no bearing on how socially acceptable sexual attraction to children is seen.

@Superbowl54: Oh, and you DID have an argument? All you said was "prove it" in an antagonistic fashion. Let's face it, none of us can "prove" what we're talking about because none of us have hard numbers, statistics, or studies. I'm just as "wrong" as the rest of you are.

@nutbastard: So you think if we ban loli porn, somehow it'll explode in our faces? News flash: virtual child porn is already illegal here.

@Superbowl54: You're the one telling me to fuck off, and somehow I'm the troll. And here I'm supposed to be the one with the logic fail.

@otakufish: I'm not advocating a change of law. In the United States, it is illegal to have virtual child porn. That's not a law I made.

@nutbastard: If it didn't harm children in any way shape or form, I'd have no argument against it.

@otakufish: Just because I haven't verbally conceded your point doesn't mean I don't understand why you feel the way you do.

@bookling: As a female gamer who interacts with many other female gamers through my women-in-gaming blog, I can say I find a lot of women are immersive types.

Why is it that a Lifetime study has me totally feeling disbelief? I half expected the results to say "Female gamers are more likely to become addicted to drugs, fall in love with an abusive man, spiral into prostitution" given their made for TV movies and what their concept of female life entails, lol!

@Michoune: Thank you, it's good to know that there are people who believe we can choose to not contribute to the release of harmful materials without it destroying the fabric of democratic society. It's one thing when someone draws a picture and puts it on the Internet. It's quite another when a major distribution…

@Kicken: Again, I'M the one not being objective by not agreeing with all of you. Makes tons of sense.

@Poop Cooper: Also, being told to "grow up" by someone nicknamed Poop Cooper=fucking hilarious.

@Poop Cooper: You, and many of you other commentors, are taking my opinion to an extreme, that suddenly because I think we should draw a line in the sand when it comes to children, that somehow I think the government should be able to stifle all forms of creative expression. Why is it that no one thinks we can put a…