@Superbowl54: What a thoughtful and conductive argument you've brought to the table. No seriously, I totally see it your way now. How awful I've been.

@otakufish: Actually, I'm of the opinion that confessed or convicted pedo's should simply be imprisoned for life or put to death. Most sexual offenders of children will tell you there's no "helping" or "rehabilitating" them, in fact, rehabilitation efforts on sexual offenders virtually never work.

@nutbastard: All I'm saying is, you're all yelling at me to "prove" myself with facts, but none of you can prove yourself with facts, either. All of this is subjective, NOT just my opinion.

@Kowl Slaw: Oh well I guess we are of differing opinions, then, 'cause I don't see jacking off as being indecent.

@Kicken: I'm the monster for wanting to criminalize FANTASIES? No, I want to criminalize the wide distribution of materials that could ultimately contribute to a culture of hypersexualized children and sexual assault on children.

@nutbastard: I thought you couldn't. In fact, I'm pretty sure you can't. And either way, I've never tried.

@Deaf Mute: So there's no moderation, no middle ground, eh? If we ban virtual child porn we're all going to wind up voiceless slaves with free speech just a figment of our past? I personally don't believe so.

@nutbastard: If I'm blasting unsubstantiated conjecture, then so are you. You can't exactly prove that loli manga and the like doesn't harm children.

@Kicken: Right, I'm not being objective because I won't jump on everyone's bandwagon and just agree that you're all right.

@Kicken: I'm not saying you shouldn't, but I don't personally believe the materials should be made widely available on a level that could indicate social acceptability.

@Deaf Mute: So there's no such thing as balance? We can't put an end to sexualized images of fake children because then the whole world will never have free speech again? Give me a break.

@Kowl Slaw: Really? I'm not a decent person because I used the phrase "jacking off"? You're right, I'm a terrible person with no morals 'cause I used that phrase.

@Kicken: You first. Find a study that says there's no connection. Troll.

@Kicken: OK "real name" irrelevancy aside, I really don't care that you think it's okay to sexually fantasize about children.

@nutbastard: I didn't say I even agreed with that. But there's a big difference between a person in a room drawing figurines on a paper, versus a type of entertainment or media that goes through a lengthy and expensive creative process and is available on retail shelves. One is a person acting out their desires in a…

@Stoli: I think sexual desire is a strong force that leads many people to act out in ways they would not have otherwise. I think there's a lot to be said for sexual and biological urges and what they'll cause you to do. I think we all know the pressure, the pull, the back and forth of sexual desire, versus how we feel…

@Kowl Slaw: Yeah, decency, that thing that kicks in where you think of other people instead of only yourself and your jack-off needs.

@otakufish: Well, given that as a woman I'm often made to shut up by being told how "emotional" I am, when I've been anything but, it's a trigger for me. Seeing as I how I use my first name, it's pretty easy to see that I'm a woman online, so when someone tells me I'm emotional because I think virtual child porn could…

@theoldwolf: I appreciate your first paragraph, perhaps you explained this much better than I did.

@Deaf Mute: You say that violent porn doesn't contribute to violence against women, but how do you know that? You act like people are never a product of their environment, ever. How can you not say that the little signals we send on social acceptability by what we make available to the public contribute to a greater…