That's what performance is! The results of the overall package. It's like I'm talking about cake and you're stuck on the merits of eggs, flour and milk.

An HPD-engineered engine-swap kit for a 2.4 Si crate motor might be a better way to go than fiddling with supercharging the hybrid powertrain, unless you have to swap the transmission too.

Why are you fixated on the raw numbers? It's not just about raw numbers. It's about overall performance, which even your example of the Miata has in spades while lacking in raw numbers.

Performance is more than just the magazine numbers. It's the sum of all these parts and more, and that can be made better without changing the bench-racing stats.

It's the luxury version aimed at the Phaeton market called the dress up!

I see Ford enjoying a small bubble with the ST right now, but it won't last if they don't keep improving the performance demonstrably each year.

5,000 hp? Gonna need a bigger radiator...

Ah, it's a SEMA car, meaning it doesn't have to do anything but display its hardware.

It's all staged. He's laying the groundwork for a plea of not guilty by reason of senility.

Have some coffee and perhaps your sarcasm detector will perk up.

Their master plan seems to be:

1. Develop unattainable halo car that underperforms its niche.
2. Create outrageous, powerful show concepts to demonstrate how Toyota/Lexus are on the cutting edge of performance and design.
3. Ignore results of previous outrageous, powerful show concepts.
4. Continue manufacturing that…

Perhaps the whole flare swings open with the door? I foresee no problems there...

At 54, I'd bet that he's not going to end up sitting at home watching FoxNews, eating sandwiches off a TV tray like your typical retiree.

Does it really matter? With such a small number of cars, you have to wonder how many will really get sold to civilians and how many will either be kept by the dealers for themselves or reserved for their cronies and best jillionaire customers.

Given enough time, the manatees should come up with most every combination possible.

What the ZL-1 as materialized sex might look like:

And being a real stickler, they also have a convertible top as shown in your example. Add that to your description and you have the classic notion of a sports car.

The funniest thing is that you still don't get that I am not a Porsche fan, and the whole point of my comment was to make fun of that conspiracy. The reference to "Porsche butt-hurt" in my follow up comments should have made it obvious to you, but there's probably lots of obvious comments you don't get.

I get it now. You're a mentally unstable stalker and have no understanding of nuance or humor. And in your mind you're righting some great wrong. I suppose you're a month late to the discussion because you were being held somewhere, likely for your own safety.

I suppose you didn't read the whole thread before you launched into your incorrect assumption that anyone who calls shenanigans on Nissan must be on Team Porsche. Think about it for a second - do you think a dyed-in-the-wool Porsche guy would refer to Porsche's complaints as "butthurt"?