Jag would either on the vine if they stuck to ICE. Their ICE products suck.

Agree. Tesla succeeded because they had the market to themselves for 10 years. Fisker Lucid Polestar etc do not have that luxury.  The big automakers will figure EVs out and those companies will suffer the consequences.  Tesla is strong enough to survive, unless Elon kills it.

“Todays EV market crash”

A LOT went into turning Tesla into what it is - Elon did not do it on his own. He’s not some sort of special genius.

Lawyers get paid based on the amount of the judgement. Why shouldn’t theirs be commensurate.

Not watching a video (would prefer to read something). How about a transcript for those of us in the office?

Same can be said about a $56,000,000,000 payday.

It’s only appealing because of marketing.

For all of Toyotas shit talking about hybrids being better, Toyota sucks at actually producing enough primes to meet demand. Fuck Toyota and their bullshit.

Israel and Palestine.

If BMW or Volvo decided to sell an EV wagon with 280-300 miles of range, I’d want to buy it. But I’d lease it first, then buy it out at lease end assuming depreciation didn’t take too big of a hit.

No one knew, because it’s all new tech. It’s why I am leasing my EVs. If depreciation is high, I win when I turn it in. If it’s low, I win if I like the car and want to buy it out.

And people who buy them know that.

In the human world. Both have been around for what, over a century?

New expensive EVs have terrible sales. The market is saturated. Few would buy a Lucid when they can buy a reputable brand like Mercedes or BMW

Now that the 787s are pushing 10+ years old, will be interesting to see how the carbon fiber frames hold up in the next decade or two.

Ah, they were starting to use the 777 once per day before COVID in addition to the 757s. But no more, and those 757s are really old.

It beats the junk 737 Max Boeing tried to replace it with.

Read this on Flyertalk:

“Where are my legs?”