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Most of what you’ve written about Audi and Porsche can be applied to Tesla as well. It doesn’t excuse a 160+ mile gap in range for the same money.

Yep. I read that and I had the same reaction. All of the stuff Audi talked about Tesla has too. It’s nice PR, but in the end, clearly excuses to those that have been following EV tech.

Even traditional engine cars are making fake vrooms. A friend just bought a $70,000 BMW and the engine noise comes out of the speakers when you gun it. It’s obnoxious. He was embarrassed when I pointed it out, too.

Came here to pretty much say this. Audi touting reliability as a top concern! And especially in regards to electrical components?!

People can say a lot of things about Tesla’s build quality, weird interiors, and their founder’s lunatic claims and ravings, but their individual battery cell monitoring and control system

Thanks for bringing back the spit take, Audi and VW engineering something for long term durability is the funniest thing I’ve read in ages-former out of warranty Audi owner

I honestly still don’t understand the rage against Tesla.

As much as I like the new electric concepts by Audi and Porsche, the range is a deal killer for me

Don't apologise for shit Hogan. You spoke the truth and Audi fed you marketing garbage. Tesla for all their faults, has absolutely destroyed in battery and motor tech.

Teslas S and X have achieved a number of things that Porsche never will. First, an American startup has successfully stolen market share from the European luxury cars and SUVs. Everyone can thank Tesla for the Taycan, since it would have never been built if not for the Model S. Second, Tesla has successfully made two

I think it’s interesting in exactly the opposite way one might think. Compare them back to back, in all aspects, and let each show where it shines. Maybe people will start to understand there's a difference between numbers and "performance". 

So in essence, the Model S, being one of the first largely relevant EVs, had to address concerns relevant to a broader category of consumer desires (range, style, tech, performance), and nailed it.

I’m no Tesla fan boy (proven by the fact I think the Model X and 3 are visual atrocities) but I imagine when Porsche announced the Taycan pricing the folks at Tesla laughed their asses off. They undoubtedly had already stopped worrying when they saw how badly Porsche ruined the beauty of the concept with the

That is what I have been saying all along, despite Poreche’s marketing, the Taycan does not compete with the Model S neither on price, purpose or size class.

We shouldn’t forget that the “luxury/family sedan” market is still huge and used to be the major car market that dominated everything else.  SUV’s have certainly grown to be the primary player but sedans are still a close 2nd, it’s a huge market.  With all trends, there could stand to be a shift back toward sedans

I don’t think these cars should be compared. While they are both EVs and expensive, one is a big american muscle car and one is german performance sedan.

Yes, because that is definitely the use case for 90% of the population.

Neutral: it’s the smartest thing they’ve done in some time.

a lot of people are worried about range anxiety but if you know moore’s law and how it impacts electronics as a whole (and not just semiconductors) you know that we’ll be seeing a Tesla with 1200 miles of range announced within the next couple years (we went

You are completely forgetting or ignoring a major component of their decision making: customer demand. Personally, I want a full EV, not some crappy half-baked hybrid. GM has offered hybrids on nearly every segment of car they make for 20 years now. They have always gotten cancelled after selling in meager quantities

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