Hopefully we’ll all be able to look back on crossovers in a few years and laugh in the same way we do about huge, overdone personal luxury coupes from the 70's...right guys? Tell me I’m right! Please for the love of God!!

Well when you have a monopoly like no other in the auto industry quality isn’t at the top of the priority list.

Couldn’t agree with you more, here is my ‘96. Even with a smallish lift and 33s it can go almost anywhere.

When I lived in Colorado, usually on a car belonging to a white person:

Yes! Why are the Raiders so goddamn popular? In Phoenix, which is like 1000 miles from Oakland every other truck and SUV on the road has one of these:

I imagine a binnacle would be rather difficult to use when flying around a racetrack at 150mph.

I think the reason is that the Wrangler Unlimited takes the place of the old Cherokee. I agree that the KL is embarrassingly bad; it is a porky, unreliable, franken-Dart, with no more capability than a Subaru Outback. Why someone would buy one and then try to improve its off-road ability is beyond me. Kind of like…

Huh? He is exactly right, bigger tire = less torque at the wheels which is indeed detrimental to off-roading. Usually this is fixed with a re-gear which is impossible given that the Cherokee is a front wheel drive car on (very small) stilts.

These are EVERYWHERE in Phoenix, usually not as well organized however, most have tree branches, rakes, bags of clippings, water jugs and other crap bouncing around in the truck bed and trailer. Drive behind one for more than 5 seconds and you are almost certain to be hit by a hedge trimmer or other detritus flying…

Ever since I saw the Outsiders for the first time I’ve though the 4th gen convertible T-bird to the be best looking. Seriously has the sexiest rear end of any car ever.

Exactly, some of the most legendary off-road SUVs in history made very low (by modern standards) HP and torque numbers. The 2.5 YJ makes something like 140 lb/ft of torque and does fine on the trail. It is all about gearing.

Another car bites the dust in favor of a crossover, even our cars are becoming more like those in Idiocracy...sign of the times I suppose.

I don’t understand this either, a coworker once told me he bought a crossover in order to more easily transport items such as a “large flat screen TV.” I asked him if he had a side gig as an AV installer and he just stared at me blankly.

I wish auto makers could stop pretending that crossovers are good off-road. Its 2016 for Chrissake, we get it, people like unnecessarily tall hatchbacks - no need to hide behind any sort of phony capability.

Because women.

It is kind of ironic that a $100,000+ sports car is being used to transport a dorky $350 hybrid bike. I mean the rack alone probably costs 4x as much as the bike.

Tanks are unbelievably effective if used in the correct context, watch this and it will all make sense:

Electrical fires? Give me a break. It is all the lighting of fancy cigars with $100 bills.

Love the XJ, it is everything that a Jeep should be. I wonder why Jeep doesn’t make a modern version of it? Too much overlap with the Wrangler Unlimited?

These things sell for insane money because there are no new alternatives to the Wrangler. You’d think the insane prices that used “real” SUVs command in the used market would be a signal to automakers that room exists in the market for a Wrangler competitor.