I would argue that Lucas did not do so successfully. He changed the visual language so much that it never seemed consistent with the original film’s, just as most other prequel creators have. You can change the visual language of the universe to any degree, but how much you can do well still retain a connection to…

Yes, hey all had the original film as their original... BUT a second Godzilla as their title character. So, the events of the original film occured, but the original monster didn’t come back. (Except the 1999-2001 films, which had sort of an alternate version of the original film as their backstory.)

The depressing movie no one asked for about watching loving couples get torn apart instead of the film we wanted featuring the return of Ripley, a disappointment? Color me shocked.

I think you’re right- but I also think that such messaging has become so partisan and divisive in modern society that Star Trek won’t be able to pull off the same thing. TOS, TNG, and the rest pull off largely universal points; racism is wrong, a society has a responsibility to the soldiers that were mentally damaged…

Plus they remembered how to make ensemble Star Trek instead of ‘the Kirk and Spock show.’ I agree; best since FC. And the Beastie Boys poked just enough fun at itself, along with the goodwill generates by the movie up to that point, that I could accept it (as opposed to the Beastie Boys in the 2009 films that had me…

Just like the blamed the failure of Enterprise on Star Trek being ‘worn out’ or ‘oversaturated’ instead of... well, the failures of Enterprise itself. :-) A sad-but-true pattern. Make a crappy entry, refuse to take responsibility for the entry, say the entire franchise is dead instead.

“Genre television is taking over, but is bleak as hell. Star Trek, with its constant affirmations that human beings can get through the worst and overcome our baser instincts, belongs on TV right now.”

Which is why hearing that it’s going to be ‘darker and more adult’ or ‘bigger, rawer, and grittier’ doesn’t increase…

But ti is a period piece; it’s set a few days before an existing film. We know what everything looked like in this period. That is litteraly the exact responsibility that all prequels undertake- accuracy to the thing they’re cribbing off of. And this was doing it exactly right.

I see we’re continuing the Star Wars whitewashing- like Dathomir and the Nightsisters- of just completely ignoring when the EU (or ‘Legends,’ if you prefer) already used or fleshed out an idea. Nope, definitely no one did anything with the idea of Vader’s castle home between McQuarie and now. Luke wasn’t there in a…

Kind of funny... because First Class was going to have all these psychic fight scenes, and then Singer went to see Inception, came home, and threw out 20 pages of script because now the sequences would be too similar to what Inception did. So now, the franchise is just passing down the same treatment to others. :-)

Well (pushes nerd-glasses further up the bridge of the nose), based ont he size of the holodeck, we can assume that the room works on some sort of treadmill technology, to make you think you’re going somewhere when you’re really not. (The TNG technical manual confirms this non-canonically). Now, presumably, this means…

I grew up with old Flash Gordon and Commander Cody serials in equal measure to TOS and TNG, so to me, it was a delightful homage- I could name the elements and costumes being referenced in most scenes. So for me, it would be #1 on the list. (But, then, that’s because of my pre-existing affection for the era).

It’s pretty simple. The Godzilla films were all one-after-another, sequels, until the series folded in the late 70s (Terror of Mechagodzilla). Their order wasn’t too important save for the rare sequel, but they were all one ‘timeline.’

Bravo. Well-recounted. This is indeed a Japanese first- it’s a little crazy to picture a Toho G-film that DOESN’T still stem from the original Gojira. We live in interesting times.

You say ‘stuck’ as if the red uniforms weren’t the best uniforms in any Star Trek, ever. And by what standard do the star ships look 'dated'?

The Murderverse being the Snyder films? I hadn’t heard that one before, but... I love it! :-D

What, Enterprise managing to take 15 minutes of story and tell it over the course of 45 minutes? No, you’re not unusual in finding it difficult to keep attention- but not in as wide a company of consensus as we ought to be, either. :-)

*petaQ :-)

Well said- and I strongly agree!

I might actually like Enterprise a little better that way- but you’d think Riker would then go ‘wait, so we could have found out about the Borg and the Ferengi by just watching this holodeck program? We didn’t have to go through the painful discovery ourselves because the truth was already contained in this…