I’m not saying that those bikes aren’t good ideas, just that both companies can make a comfortable profit selling the same thing they’ve been selling for decades, so why upset the apple cart? I’m not a cruiser guy either, but I would gladly give a HD dual sport a fair shake. I just doubt I’ll ever see one.

Either way, why would they “carry them further” if they “lost to Harley”? A BMW cruiser makes the same amount of business sense as a Harley dual sport. And also they are awkward, ugly little bastards that only a mother could love. Just like all Bimmers.

It’s funny you bring up the R1200c because it’s easily one of the most heinous BMWs in history, and it sold poorly because it wasn’t a Harley. I can agree that the HP2 was something to behold though.

I clicked on this article to learn more just like you are attempting to do, so I am definitely not your target audience. I legitimately don’t understand it either other than it is almost completely an image thing. That is in no way a dismissive thing or a negative thing, but as far as I can comprehend Harley culture,…

I have no dissent other than to say that while it may not appeal to you, BMW is just as easily a lifestyle brand that sells motorcycles.

So your answer is they’re out of the realm of comprehension and also that no one should challenge that... Thank you for inching forward the conversation.

One second it’s “What I wrote is all you need to know” and the next you’re “not helping discourse”... What a joke.

What are you even talking about? When writing an article about cars, a classic car will be dinged for reliabilty, overall performance, handling, but have pros such as simple, educational, and unique. Harleys and other baggers aren’t beyond being criticized. I’m sure they’re comfy, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t…