I actually agree with you that some street bikes are prettier. Without the constraints of having to achieve maximum performance, there’s more you can do with the design.

I would agree. Primarily I don’t watch F1 because there’s so little passing and it just doesn’t seem that competitive. MotoGP had 9 different race winners last season and usually the top ten qualifiers for a race are all within a second of each other. F1 is a little too processional for me.

Tav, this was fun! I appreciate a fresh in-depth perspective on this car. Suggestion: HPDE or autocross! HPDE especially would be great; I know you said you’re not Harris but it would be fun to have your impressions of the car having driven it at speed with an instructor in a controlled environment. The thing is…

Jesus god, the horror. Spectacularly ugly. I can almost hear the wet squelching sounds of an alien proboscis lancing a human’s abdomen in a bad sci-fi movie.

See, this is why I can’t get into F1. This is pretty? Respectfully, this car looks like a piece of organ meat mated with a fresh, smooth turd. F1 cars are hideous these days. They all look like they were designed in a wind tunnel by robots, far away from human eyes.

A star for this rolling piece of sculpture.

Sweet baby jesus in a tuxedo t-shirt, this project makes wrenching on my miata look like tea time at the Mclaren factory.

Look man you’re not wrong. Those are pretty cars. But they get love on Jalopnik, more love than sedans.

RVs on the PCH

Crossovers and SUVs are the hot shit now unless it’s luxury, and even then, people really like luxury SUVs. Everything’s got to be lifted and dumb. Sedans are poverty spec, as you say. You buy that if you can’t afford that SUV you really want. The understated elegance of a well-proportioned sedan is lost on the…

Sedans. Hands down. The public is abandoning them, manufacturers are making fewer of them, and everyone on Jalopnik is obsessed with shooting brakes and wagons. Sedans get no love. Here’s a beautiful E39 M5 to remind us all to think about what we’ve done.

Wow, I really excited the Internet Tough Guy Super Cynic Bridgade. Cool stories bros. Guess you’re all right and the world is shit and we should just eat shit sandwiches everyday until we’re all marched off to the shit camps to toil away in the underground shit quarries.

Well, Kalanick stepped down from what is probably a powerful council that could have directly impacted Uber’s bottom line. That’s a strong start. And in Congress, democrats are introducing legislation to overturn the immigration ban. It’s hard to imagine any of that happening without the mass protests, wouldn’t you…

The saddest part is, he’s probably selling it for a loss, even at 25k.

God I can just hear the false hope and desperation of this guy when he found this car.... “this is it!” he thought, his eyes widening. “My ticket out of the meth lab!”

Sweet fuck, this has to win the prize. This is a hot, buttered, garbage-laced slap in the face of every enthusiast ever.

Urrrggghhh I hate to be that guy - 1st gen miata typically means 90-97 and encompasses the 1.6 and 1.8 cars. The 1.8 cars are not significantly heavier. This is splitting hairs. I agree with the spirit of what you’re saying. Very close in performance.

That’s a pretty big range of 0-60 times. And 8.5 is pretty close to what the 1.8L Miatas from 94-97 can do. I’m not sure about autoX, but I’d be willing to bet a 1.8 or even 1.6 with a decent set of tires is going to show taillights to a fit on a road course.

I’ve been in plenty of cheap Nissans and the ride quality is garbage compared to my buddy’s 200. Can’t believe I’m on here defending Chrysler products but I’m just saying - it did not feel cheap.

I agree that it’s a perception problem. The 200 I rode in had less than 50k miles so I can’t speak to the longevity or durability.