Well it’s the only defense they could muster. Effectively Elon is so full of shit, and his comments and claims so obviously absurd that no reasonable person could actually believe what he’s saying.

The Abarth 500.

By granny shifting.  Not double clutching like he should.

Fitzjames was among the survivors who finally abandoned the vessels in 1848, staggering southward across the frigid and barren King Williams Island to a whaling outpost some 800 miles from their stranded ships until they perished.

The 911.

I think ‘captured’ is a bit strong. More like the Japanese found and recovered it.

You haven’t, actually - I’m just about to leave work and jump into my VB WRX. But I still stand by my observation that, at least now, Prius’ seem pretty much like any other car on the road. I’ll say they had a bit of a reputation when they first became popular.  But now they’re pretty ubiquitous.  

Just going to throw this out there - but Rush was clearly dismissive of government regulation and government warnings. The typical, libertarian, businessman who felt that needless bureaucracy cramped his style.

I mean... how?  He went into the sub with the rest of them.  

It also includes “End to End” on highways, which isn’t worrying at all.

Yeah. All fair. He wasn’t really a snake-oil salesman, in the sense that they don’t really believe the bullshit they’re peddling.

Man I just spent a ton of time in Southern California around the beach cities - didn’t see Prius’ as any sort of stand out. Just tons of them - everywhere. Almost got smoked by a Tesla 3 though - I thought they were supposed to see pedestrians, and stuff.

The fact that he took himself out is the only thing I find surprising. Usually these people are at least a little self-aware and avoid putting themselves in any real danger.  He clearly also bought the bullshit he was peddling - because he made a number of dives in that death trap.

Around here Prius’ are driven just like every other car on the road.  not sure where you’re getting your experience from - but it’s completely at odds with what I’ve seen.

I mean - the dude clearly lived his life avoiding responsibility, and finding the easiest and cheapest way around any problem he faced. Shouldn’t be surprising that he’d naturally go to bribing an official if he didn’t get his way.

There’s a difference between enjoying a car, and having a car that’s objectively good as a ‘car’. If you like a car with ‘soul’ (whatever that means to you), that’s great, and you should buy those cars. But to say cars are becoming ‘worse’ - in any objective sense is just wrong.

Sure we do, and I never said we didn’t.

Came here to say exactly this - they missed the hot hatchback. But included an Ioniq 5 (which, while a really cool car, is not really what this list is all about).

You seem to have mistaken “modern car” with “gigantic SUV”.

Sure, tall hoods are worse for pedestrian safety, but not all new cars have tall hoods. And I know some new cars - certainly Volvo - designs cars specifically to account for accidents with pedestrians. It’s one thing to say new, giant, SUVs and pick ups are bad for pedestrian safety - but that’s not the same as all…